Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

Applying for SGIP (SoCal Edison)?

Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
I am trying to figure out how to see if I qualify and then apply for SGIP. I have SoCal Edison as my utility.

I contacted my installer and they told me that now that I own the equipment I would have to apply myself. I emailed Edison SGIP and they just gave me a link to the same website where I got the email address. I cannot find any clear directions or application. Can anyone here help me?
 
Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
This is not a tax credit question. I already got my federal tax rebate. This is a state level rebate through the utility company. There website only helps you purchase batteries and find venders. It does not give me info on how I myself would apply
 

jjrandorin

Moderator, Model 3, Tesla Energy Forums
Nov 28, 2018
7,681
8,460
Riverside Co. CA
You (the individual home owner) does not apply for this, which is why you are not finding information on how to apply. You can search the SGIP website, and you will find that you need a developer key, and you could attempt to go through the rigamarole of trying to get a developer key, but that will not assist you in applying yourself.

The short answer is, you dont
 
Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
You (the individual home owner) does not apply for this, which is why you are not finding information on how to apply. You can search the SGIP website, and you will find that you need a developer key, and you could attempt to go through the rigamarole of trying to get a developer key, but that will not assist you in applying yourself.

The short answer is, you dont
Thank you. So it appears my installer is giving me the runaround? They will not apply for me and told me I must do it myself because I now own the equipment
 

jjrandorin

Moderator, Model 3, Tesla Energy Forums
Nov 28, 2018
7,681
8,460
Riverside Co. CA
Thank you. So it appears my installer is giving me the runaround? They will not apply for me and told me I must do it myself because I now own the equipment

its likely slightly more convoluted than that, but if you purchased less than 12 months ago they "might" be able to apply for you, assuming they had developer cap left to do so. If you got 1 or 2 powerwalls, and tesla was your installer, its not going to happen, period, stop, end of sentence. If you got a third party installer and there was no discussion of SGIP when you were going through the process, they may not have any developer cap available to do so.
 

holeydonut

Supporting Member
Jun 27, 2020
984
589
East Bay NorCal
I think it'll help to understand which incentive you think you qualify for to see if the rebate is even still in play. In the last year, the SGIP has undergone a rapid shift to helping people get resiliency from the wild fires. And a lot of funds were shifted to low-income buckets as well.

If you installed 1 or 2 Powerwalls but are not in a fire zone and not on well water, you're basically SOL unless you're low income. Those residential incentives are long exhausted.

If you believe you qualify for the resiliency program and have well water, you can probably submit your own 2-step SGIP program once you get a developer key. Lucky you're in SoCal because NorCal is out of funds.

If you installed 3 or more but are not in a fire zone and not on well water, you can try to submit your own 3-step SGIP application under your own developer key... but you better go fast because the funds will run out soon.
 
Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
its likely slightly more convoluted than that, but if you purchased less than 12 months ago they "might" be able to apply for you, assuming they had developer cap left to do so. If you got 1 or 2 powerwalls, and tesla was your installer, its not going to happen, period, stop, end of sentence. If you got a third party installer and there was no discussion of SGIP when you were going through the process, they may not have any developer cap available to do so.
It was single PowerWall installed by Sunrun less than 12 months ago. At the time they said there was no more money for SGIP for the 2020 year. I contacted them again this year 2021 and they said they would look into it. They got back to me and told me I would have to apply myself since I now own the equipment.
 

jjrandorin

Moderator, Model 3, Tesla Energy Forums
Nov 28, 2018
7,681
8,460
Riverside Co. CA
It was single PowerWall installed by Sunrun less than 12 months ago. At the time they said there was no more money for SGIP for the 2020 year. I contacted them again this year 2021 and they said they would look into it. They got back to me and told me I would have to apply myself since I now own the equipment.

You are not going to get any SGIP funds for 1-2 powerwalls, that money is basically gone. Sunrun probably exhausted their 1-2 powerwall developer key allotment, and likely has a boilerplate response to tell customers to "do it yourself" because they dont want to tell you "you are not going to get it".
 

h2ofun

Active Member
Aug 11, 2020
1,561
250
auburn, ca
You are not going to get any SGIP funds for 1-2 powerwalls, that money is basically gone. Sunrun probably exhausted their 1-2 powerwall developer key allotment, and likely has a boilerplate response to tell customers to "do it yourself" because they dont want to tell you "you are not going to get it".
One really needed to get money BEFORE anything happened. Thats what I did. Basically, all the money is gone
 
Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
I think it'll help to understand which incentive you think you qualify for to see if the rebate is even still in play. In the last year, the SGIP has undergone a rapid shift to helping people get resiliency from the wild fires. And a lot of funds were shifted to low-income buckets as well.

If you installed 1 or 2 Powerwalls but are not in a fire zone and not on well water, you're basically SOL unless you're low income. Those residential incentives are long exhausted.

If you believe you qualify for the resiliency program and have well water, you can probably submit your own 2-step SGIP program once you get a developer key. Lucky you're in SoCal because NorCal is out of funds.

If you installed 3 or more but are not in a fire zone and not on well water, you can try to submit your own 3-step SGIP application under your own developer key... but you better go fast because the funds will run out soon.
I'm in a grey area when it comes to fire threats. I am right up against a hill but all of our powerlines are underground. I get threats of Power shutoff during Red Flags, but am in one of the lower danger areas (never had it shut off). The northern part of my city (up against the foothills of the mountains) is in the high risk zone and does get shut off frequently. Income wise I will not qualify. When I contacted Edison they said I "may" qualify based on my location but it is not definitive. Then they just gave me the link to the website (which doesn't help at all) and told me to contact my installer.

I have my installer telling me I have to apply myself at this point. And Edison telling me my installer has to apply
 
Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
You are not going to get any SGIP funds for 1-2 powerwalls, that money is basically gone. Sunrun probably exhausted their 1-2 powerwall developer key allotment, and likely has a boilerplate response to tell customers to "do it yourself" because they dont want to tell you "you are not going to get it".
That's what I believe to be the case.
 

h2ofun

Active Member
Aug 11, 2020
1,561
250
auburn, ca
I'm in a grey area when it comes to fire threats. I am right up against a hill but all of our powerlines are underground. I get threats of Power shutoff during Red Flags, but am in one of the lower danger areas (never had it shut off). The northern part of my city (up against the foothills of the mountains) is in the high risk zone and does get shut off frequently. Income wise I will not qualify. When I contacted Edison they said I "may" qualify based on my location but it is not definitive. Then they just gave me the link to the website (which doesn't help at all) and told me to contact my installer.

I have my installer telling me I have to apply myself at this point. And Edison telling me my installer has to apply
I think they are all being nice on trying to give the message, money all gone
 

holeydonut

Supporting Member
Jun 27, 2020
984
589
East Bay NorCal
It was single PowerWall installed by Sunrun less than 12 months ago. At the time they said there was no more money for SGIP for the 2020 year. I contacted them again this year 2021 and they said they would look into it. They got back to me and told me I would have to apply myself since I now own the equipment.

Yeah, I'm afraid there is no money for you unless you're in a "tier-2 or tier-3" fire zone and in the SCE area. Like you have to see where your address is and see if it's shaded in the regions on this map:


This is a very specific requirement. I don't mean to Doxx anyone; I'm just pulling random addresses for an example.

5921 Johnston Dr, Piedmont, CA is outside of the Tier 2 zone.
6016 Johnston Dr, Piedmont CA is in the Tier 2 zone.

These houses are literally like 100 yards apart. If both houses were only on well-water (unlikely since this is Piedmont; but you get the idea), then only 6016 would qualify for the resiliency SGIP in the PG&E area. Unfortunately at this time only low-income people still have funds available, so 6016 would also have to prove a low income level to even dream of accessing funds.

BTW, I purchased from Sunrun, and I'm aware they stopped telling non-equity customers about the SGIP in early 2020 since the funds were gone. It's basically been a zero chance of getting the older SGIP (without needing to be in low-income or resiliency).

I'd be surprised if you're low income and they aren't helping you get the SGIP. But now a ton of people at Sunrun know me on a first name basis. So if you're low income and need help getting your SGIP submitted, shoot me a PM and I'll get you routed to the folks that can get this sorted out.
 
  • Helpful
Reactions: jjrandorin

Merrill

Merrill
Jan 23, 2013
3,699
1,259
Sonoma, California
The Resilience SGIP money is gone, I worked on trying to get Powerwalls for close to 2 years and at the start it was just to expensive. In 2019 the CPUC came out with the equity and resilience incentive but to qualify you had to be in a wildfire area 2 or 3, have at least 2 PSPS and on a well. I was lucky to get in early and had an installer who could file for the incentive for me. It was not the easiest program to maneuver thru but was able to secure the incentive before work started.
 

holeydonut

Supporting Member
Jun 27, 2020
984
589
East Bay NorCal
The Resilience SGIP money is gone, I worked on trying to get Powerwalls for close to 2 years and at the start it was just to expensive. In 2019 the CPUC came out with the equity and resilience incentive but to qualify you had to be in a wildfire area 2 or 3, have at least 2 PSPS and on a well. I was lucky to get in early and had an installer who could file for the incentive for me. It was not the easiest program to maneuver thru but was able to secure the incentive before work started.

Just to nit-pick your comment a bit... the Resilience (regular income level) program is only waitlisted (no funds left at this time) in the PG&E area and CSE. The SCE and SCG funds for resiliency are still available as of March 26, 2021.

I guess there are some groups pushing California to add funds to SGIP in general. It never hurts to write your local congress-person to tell them that allowing homeowners some form of energy resilience/independence from the PoCos is a good thing.
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
Reactions: jjrandorin

Merrill

Merrill
Jan 23, 2013
3,699
1,259
Sonoma, California
Just to nit-pick your comment a bit... the Resilience (regular income level) program is only waitlisted (no funds left at this time) in the PG&E area and CSE. The SCE and SCG funds for resiliency are still available as of March 26, 2021.

I guess there are some groups pushing California to add funds to SGIP in general. It never hurts to write your local congress-person to tell them that allowing homeowners some form of energy resilience/independence from the PoCos is a good thing.
Will 2 people I know were told recently there was no money left, I do hope they will continue to fund this incentive.
 
Mar 15, 2021
50
16
California
Yeah, I'm afraid there is no money for you unless you're in a "tier-2 or tier-3" fire zone and in the SCE area. Like you have to see where your address is and see if it's shaded in the regions on this map:


This is a very specific requirement. I don't mean to Doxx anyone; I'm just pulling random addresses for an example.

5921 Johnston Dr, Piedmont, CA is outside of the Tier 2 zone.
6016 Johnston Dr, Piedmont CA is in the Tier 2 zone.

These houses are literally like 100 yards apart. If both houses were only on well-water (unlikely since this is Piedmont; but you get the idea), then only 6016 would qualify for the resiliency SGIP in the PG&E area. Unfortunately at this time only low-income people still have funds available, so 6016 would also have to prove a low income level to even dream of accessing funds.

BTW, I purchased from Sunrun, and I'm aware they stopped telling non-equity customers about the SGIP in early 2020 since the funds were gone. It's basically been a zero chance of getting the older SGIP (without needing to be in low-income or resiliency).

I'd be surprised if you're low income and they aren't helping you get the SGIP. But now a ton of people at Sunrun know me on a first name basis. So if you're low income and need help getting your SGIP submitted, shoot me a PM and I'll get you routed to the folks that can get this sorted out.
Thank you for this. I am not low income. But I appreciate the offer.

I don't want to give my exact location, but I will say that my city is in all three zones and my neighborhood happens to be in tier 1. So it looks like I will not qualify anyway
 

Attachments

  • fire.JPG
    fire.JPG
    215.8 KB · Views: 5

About Us

Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.

Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


SUPPORT TMC
Top