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My apologies for naming names in my reply I generally don't do that but I'm not blowing smoke I actually have the experience first hand and I can tell you that you will probably be okay with a good all season Tire on an all wheel drive 4000 pound car unless you just don't know how to drive.
SomeJoe777 offers a TPMS programming service through this forum. I paid him $127 last year to buy a set of sensors for me, program them and then send them to me. His service was impeccable.I then paid $1,000 net for a mounted and balanced set of wheels and Michelin X-ice from Discount Tire. There was no extra charge to install the TPMSFor $1800, you can get a full set of 18" wheels and winter tires for your car. There are a LOT of advantages to this approach.
That looks like a great price installed. If you order them from Tirerack and install them, it'll be like $1000. Do you have to be a Costco member to buy tires?Costco has the Michelin CrossClimate + at $208/tire + $18/tire for install. Buy 4 and save $110 through 10/1. Total price is $802 for a set of 4. Seems like a good deal. Has anyone gotten these for cheaper?
Michelin CrossClimate tires are "all-weather" which are better than an "all-season" but not the same winter performance as a true "winter" tire.
According to Transport Canada:
"When shopping for winter tires, it is important to look for a tire that displays the Three-Peak Mountain Snowflake Symbol (also referred to as the ‘Alpine’symbol) on the sidewall. Transport Canada acknowledges that tires displaying this symbol meet the specific snow traction performance requirements, and have been designed specifically for use in severe snow conditions.
Winter tire testing is innovative, reliable and sophisticated. All winter tires that are marked with the Alpine symbol (pictured below) undergo the ASTM F 1805 tire test on medium-packed snow in standardized testing conditions to ensure their snow traction performance meets the minimum industry requirements to be considered a winter tire. Importantly, tires that are manufactured for medium-packed snow are required by law to perform this test and may display the 3PMSF symbol on the sidewall. "
The CrossClimate+ is a 3PMSF tire, as are a few others.
Having significantly different traction front vs back is very bad mojo. This is especially true of a vehicle whose design is such that it expects “square” tire setup, which is the case with the Model 3.are 4 winter tires required? Could people that dont go to the snow that often get by with 2 rear winter tires on an awd?
When you use all 4 wheels, particularly including the front rather than just the rear, you get clearly get better braking out of the tires.
I'm in DC (where more than an inch of snow turns into a snow day) and not every winter results in extremely cold temperatures under 32 deg F, so I'm not considering a dedicated set of winter wheels and tires. However, I am considering a set of winter tires and just mounting them onto my existing rims if a need arises (winter road trip, ski trip, etc). Does anyone have any suggestions on how to store unused tires (tire bags? vertical vs horizontal?), or better yet, does someone know a shop in the DC area that does winter wheel/tire storage?
I don't know about his car but my LR model has a brake on each wheel. AWB, every time. It's great ... with good winter tyres.I'm missing how you are equating awd with how the brakes work
The bigger problem than getting going, is stopping and turning a vehicleare 4 winter tires required? Could people that dont go to the snow that often get by with 2 rear winter tires on an awd?
Costco has the Michelin CrossClimate + at $208/tire + $18/tire for install. Buy 4 and save $110 through 10/1. Total price is $802 for a set of 4. Seems like a good deal. Has anyone gotten these for cheaper?
Is the tire center members only, and if not, do they charge you a 5% extra if you're not?For anyone interested, these are now $40 less. Savings at $150 instead of $110.