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Article re: Tesla using BMW CF for Model X doors

Discussion in 'Model X' started by AnOutsider, Nov 19, 2014.

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  1. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

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    BMWs Carbon Fiber Could Save Tesla Model X Doors

    a bit of rambling in the article, but the meat is:

    Seems mostly conjecture, but hadn't seen this angle of Tesla-BMW cooperation mentioned before.
     
  2. JohnQ

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    It's and interesting thought, though pure speculation as you mentioned. My biggest worry with CF is cost of repair though the Model S body work bills are so high I'm not sure that CF would be much worse.
     
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    Probably just speculation. I would think that Tesla's standard approach of using aluminum body panels would result in the Falcon Wing doors being light enough.
     
  4. AnOutsider

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    Fair point since the article focuses on the weight-savings compared to steel.
     
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    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Well-Known Member

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    Cars have powered rear hatches. I really don't think the weight is an issue.
     
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    I am amazed how much conjecture gets print these days, from this article to all of Morgan Stanley's miscalculations and negative projections this week. Good journalism is severely lacking these days. The email that Tesla Motors just sent out to Model X owners seems to say that the Model X problems have been solved and now it is just a timeline of steps, Beta's to Final Production.
     
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    I wasn't aware BMW had a lock on the entire carbon fiber market.... Why does Tesla need BMW?
     
  8. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    BMW uses CF reinforced plastic which I thought was cheaper then the CF used in the Roadster. I'm not sure about that though.
     
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    Question for Jonas: "what Tesla/BMW partnership?"
    They had a meeting.
     
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    And Tesla needs BMW for carbon fiber why? It was not that long ago that Tesla was building the Roadster entirely out of carbon fiber.
     
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    Agreed, I've some experience with CF and while it's not simple, it's not all that difficult if you're making enough parts to justify some tooling.
     
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    Tesla battery talks with BMW continue says Musk - SlashGear

     
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    Guess CF parts could be a bemefitt for the Model 3, if the price is right. ;-)
    If BMW made some parts for EU models, it could be assemled inside EU with. batterypack and less transportation needed for those parts.
    Some parts of the car have to be assebled inside EU, (import tax....)
     
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    BMW: No Interest In Tesla Cooperation, Musk Was Posturing For PR

    Saucy!
     
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    Remember though Jordan, Tesla contracted out the building of the chassis and body to Lotus...Tesla built the batteries and the PEM...they also wrote the software. They had design input in the chassis and body, but contracted out their manufacture and assembly.

    The "gliders" were sent from The Lotus plant in England to Palo Alto where Tesla installed the above mentioned components.
     

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