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Articles re Tesla—Fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by Robert.Boston, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. wdolson

    wdolson Supporting Member

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    I think at this point SpaceX has put more things into orbit than all other private space ventures combined. They also put a car in orbit.

    As far as Richard Branson going into space, it hasn't happened yet. Virgin Galactic might be able to claim some firsts, but overall SpaceX is the strongest player in the private space flight business. They actually have customers and are delivering real revenue making payloads into orbit.
     
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  2. winfield100

    winfield100 Supporting Member

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    you could see this from 190 miles away, AND hear the quadruple sonic booms of the side boosters landing, but it seems to be a friendly race as predicted 50 - 70 years ago in a lot of science fiction stories
    t + 60 seconds
     
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  3. ggr

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    Richard M. Naloxone on Twitter
    $TSLA @Tesla @elonmusk: @CNBC blatantly false headline "Tesla reports estimated 74,100 Model 3 deliveries in second quarter", but the interview clearly states that it is other people's estimates. Why would Tesla say anything 5 days or so before reporting the ACTUAL numbers?
     
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  5. PeterK

    PeterK Model X & 3 Owner

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    Goldman Sachs research note: "Tesla Inc. (TSLA): 2Q19 deliveries beat on solid Model 3 count; our focus remains on demand sustainability and vehicle profitability"

    Translation: "We were wrong about demand, but we're going to keep being wrong." :)
     
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    This is the "Fact or Fiction?" thread. We're supposed to debunk BS.
     
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  9. imherkimer

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    Exactly! So quote it and debunk it for us.
    But why reward them with our clicks?
    I clicked and regret that I did.
    The BS is so bs that it’s almost certainly just a click-bait article to begin with.
    What specifically did you want to debunk?
    And how does linking without comment amount to debunking?
     
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  10. LN1_Casey

    LN1_Casey Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

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    Ugh; talk about a BS story meant to discredit Tesla.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjEnYOi1qrjAhUD5aYKHc7YBKMQqQIIMygAMAI&url=https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-workers-fired-pregnant-leave-2019-7&usg=AOvVaw2VcCI0Y5xDYnKmLpjq7Rcx

    Save you a click:

    All of these are absurd. Not only is the timeline with these sketchy (the first woman was terminated 7 months ago), but they're all very purposefully sympathetic characters without details about their offense.

    The first; behavior issues can happen, and do so, even if the woman is pregnant. It doesn't matter whether the woman was promoted before; sometimes, that's what makes them the assholes/unreliable/whatever else. And she was only at the company less than a year, how did she get promoted to supervisor 'last year'? Was it within a week of her hiring or something? Is it last year to now, so around July?

    The second; employees each get certain benefits they're allotted. Unless there is a program in place to do so, which the company usually briefs members on when they join (as part of their "welcome to the company" package), or is discussed when you ask your supervisor ('Hey, I need time off to do XYZ, is there a way for Billy to give me his excess days off?'), and if that hasn't occurred, it doesn't mean use your position to sensitive data to gain the benefit.

    (Side note: Jesus, 5 kids? By yourself? Probably Tesla, a very high pace, demanding company, isn't the best for your situation as you seem to need much more flexible hours)

    And lastly; I know a lot of companies have no cell phone use policy. I also know very, very rarely would they ever fire someone, who worked at the company longer than a few months and thus are fully trained and have a known history with the company, would terminate someone for a single cell phone use during working hours. Further, would spend the time, money, and energy on an investigation into said cell phone use, before the termination occurred. There is undoubtedly much more to this story that she isn't saying, especially if her husband shortly after was fired over a tweet. Her firing date is unknown, so my bet was the husband was disparaging against Tesla on twitter.
     
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  11. neroden

    neroden Model S Owner and Frustrated Tesla Fan

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    Given Tesla's general erratic management, I wouldn't be surprised if a rogue supervisor had wrongly fired someone. Happens at the best of companies. It's quite obvious it's not systemic.
     
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    >EV with forced noisemakers.

    I had a thought today and I figured the people posting here might know plus it is somewhat of a debunking thing. I would imagine by now with all these silent deadly electric Tesla vehicles on the road and the Model 3s with all the cameras there would be headlines everywhere trying to crash Tesla's SP with pictures and videos of people getting run over by silent EVs at least in the double digits a year except I haven't seen a single article about pedestrians not hearing Tesla's and getting run over.

    Has anyone read anything about this huge crisis that is supposed to be happening?
     
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  13. AndreN

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    This article has some decent analysis of the issue (er, non-issue).
     
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  14. winfield100

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    for those interested, MarkBS has his investment letter out
    he lost 11.5% (all May gains vanished in June :) )
    His 16 page letter consists of about 8 pages of links to "why tesla will fail because xzyabc is not Tesla" why why because because
    (elephant x Rhinocerous = Ell eff eye noh)

    I attempted to cheer him up, in my own inimitable way, :cool::), pointing out the $176.9919 low he could have used to close out shorts, a on 6/3, gave a helpful comment that i bought 40 shares at $191, now up about $2,000, and thanked him for (partially) subsidizing my upcoming Hawai'i vacation which will be extended because extra $$$:p:cool::) "than kew veriii much holding a frou-frou umbrella drink in my hand" and suggested TSLAQ disband prior to $300/share.

    however, i expect the usual ungratefullness, sheesh, try to help folks and they get grumpy, good golly miss Molly :cool::cool::):cool::cool:

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4274906-stanphyl-capital-letter-june-2019
     
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  15. S'toon

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    #2175 S'toon, Jul 23, 2019
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  16. PeterK

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    #2176 PeterK, Aug 7, 2019
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    New BS from Business Insider’s Linette Lopez. An article headlined “The star of 'Aladdin' claims a defect in his Tesla Model 3 led to his car wreck, and it comes from a problem area the company has known about for years” makes it sound like Whompy Wheels is a real, known problem and not the conspiracy musings of a single Australian crackpot. Unfortunately no comment function.

    “For those who watch Tesla closely, though, Massoud's sounds familiar. Suspension problems have plagued Tesla's cars for years. On the internet an incident like Mena's is known as the "whompy wheel," and it has become something like Tesla-lore. The National Highway Safety Transportation Association (NHTSA) website is littered with anonymous complaints about broken suspensions, and there are websites dedicated to spotting whompy wheels in the wild.”

    Pathetic. From June 5, but first time I saw it.
     
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  17. S'toon

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    Wait, people take that nutjob Keef Wivaneff seriously?
     
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  18. JRP3

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    He's a "truth teller" for the TSLAQ crowd
     
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    SW2Fiddler We Are Cognitive Dissidents

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    Don’t ya know? He tells Troof, wiv an Eff.
     
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