Audi EV

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There is a shift here. The hydrogen fuel cell seems to have stalled on the side of the road with the charade largely over.
All the car makers have now seen the Lithium EV race by and they are now racing to catch up. They guys are now 5 or more years behind Pole position.

Audi to offer electric cars in 5-10 years: report | Industries | Consumer Goods & Retail | Reuters

Thank you Martin.

 

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There is a shift here. The hydrogen fuel cell seems to have stalled on the side of the road with the charade largely over.
All the car makers have now seen the Lithium EV race by and they are now racing to catch up. They guys are now 5 or more years behind Pole position.

Audi to offer electric cars in 5-10 years: report | Industries | Consumer Goods & Retail | Reuters

Thank you Martin.

5-10 years is a complete joke. They'll get smoked with the competition out there and frankly deserve it. To make statements that something like a car is 5-10 years in the pipeline is silly.

 

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Silly or ...desperate?

 

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Possible small electric Audi in development

Audi?s new green baby is shaping up! | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express

Yet near-100mpg fuel returns are clearly not enough – as an electric powertrain is also under development. Details are sketchy at the moment, but ultra-low running costs and emissions are guaranteed.

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the A2 had a certain type of DNA with its aluminium body, and this should be respected. But electric drive is a must.”

 

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Audi A1, A2 and E1 to arrive before 2014 - AutoblogGreen

Audi bringt neuen A2 - Totgesagte leben länger - News - autobild.de

 

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Audi A2: Successor coming, we have first impressions! - The German Car Blog

The Audi A2 is expected for 2014 the very latest and it will be aligned with the small city car Audi E1 (first time to mention that name!) and the Mini-killer Audi A1.

None of the English articles seem to mention this, but the source is Audi boss Rupert Stadler, so we can read some degree of truth into it. The E1 will be an electric city car.

Also, it is said that the A2 will first appear as a 3 litre car (or 100mpg - there was one of these available in the old A2 range in Germany too, a diesel 1.2l). Later on they plan a hybrid and/or electric version. Rather than being all aluminium (as was the last version), the new one will feature composite aluminium, steel and plastic construction.

 

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But you are right TEG, the angle seems right...

Cobos

 

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Audi working on new A2, including an electric version

According to Michael Dick, the German brand's chief of R&D, the next small car in the works has moved to the concept stage and is reportedly recognizable as an A2 but will be designed from the start to house both standard internal combustion engines and electric powertrains.

 

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Rendered speculation: Audi E1 electric micro car

 

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I hope this is not their big announcement this summer... Though I'd love to have an electric R8

 

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Rendered speculation: Audi E1 electric micro car

Well done ABG, that pic first appeared 6 months ago (see above).

 

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Hmm.

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Audi of America president calls Chevy Volt "a car for idiots," slams electric vehicles — Autoblog Green

Someone not on-message?

 

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Those videos make a not-so-subtle electric statement.

Audi USA has been adamant about the company having no EVs in the works. Someone may owe someone else an apology.

 

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Speculation the the AUdi R8 will be the Electric

Once More With Feeling: Audi's electric concept likely to be based on R8 — Autoblog Green

Intersting in that the R8 seems to be the "IT" car of today with the Roadster.

And the message is moving
Audi's Johan de Nysschen responds to Volt for idiots story — Autoblog Green

 

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DailyTech - Audi President Johan de Nysschen Tries to Clarify Volt "Idiots" Comment

However, from there his comments go south as he begins insulting the now-profitable Tesla. He states, "We might as well have been taking about the Tesla. I am not an enemy of the (Volt) concept."

Keep digging...

 

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DailyTech - Audi President Johan de Nysschen Tries to Clarify Volt "Idiots" Comment

lt, it won’t be to save money.
I argued that the first generations of new technology always have to be subsidized by the well off who may have many different reasons for buying it.
“You are right,” he said, all new technology always cost more. He noted that was why luxury cars usually lead the way with groundbreaking technology.
I asked if he believed that that Chevy Volt design doesn’t match a high end car. “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,” he said. “I don’t find it an unattractive car.”
“Its not a premium car feel,” he said. “But it’s got a premium car price.”

Someone else said the Volt should have been a Cadillac to have it be Ok to be expensive and hide the costs within the sticker price.

What if that had happened? What if all the makers adopted the "luxury car first" model that Tesla did? (some may argue that that actually is happening) Would that hake the general public more forgiving of the whole EV shift?

 

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Someone else said the Volt should have been a Cadillac to have it be Ok to be expensive and hide the costs within the sticker price...

You know about "Converj", right?

• Cadillac | CONVERJ | THE "CADILLAC" OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES
• Cadillac Converj Concept: A Volt For Cadillac - Cadillac Converj Concept - Jalopnik
• Converj gets Green-Light
• GM may not build plug-in-hybrid as a Chevy

 

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You know about "Converj", right?

Yep that qualifies but I was (poorly) remembering someone writing the idea that the Volt should have been a Caddy (or something high end).

 

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You know about "Converj", right?

• Cadillac | CONVERJ | THE "CADILLAC" OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES
• Cadillac Converj Concept: A Volt For Cadillac - Cadillac Converj Concept - Jalopnik
• Converj gets Green-Light
• GM may not build plug-in-hybrid as a Chevy

Last I heard, the Converj may not make production.
I think the argument was the Volt should have been a Cadillac all along and there shouldn't have been a Chevy version.

IMO I think the decision to go with Chevy was because the initial estimate was only $30k, which is something Chevy can bear. Now that it is $40k, it is squarely in premium car territory. If the Volt ever makes it back down to $30k (there is a good chance the next generations can do so) then it will make more sense.

 

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Looks like some images have slipped out ahead of today's unveiling:

Frankfurt Preview: Audi e-Tron electric supercar gets early web unveil — Autoblog Green