Are you sure about that? Would kind of defeat the purpose of TeslaWaze if this is true.
Also, WAV files (though I prefer FLAC).
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Audio connectivity, Qobuz, Hi-res?
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Are you sure about that? Would kind of defeat the purpose of TeslaWaze if this is true.
Knightshade
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When I used it it was display only, no audio.
Still showed lots of stuff the OEM nav does not (cops, accidents, disabled vehicles, much better traffic data, etc)
I’m going to see if I can program a Raspberry Pi to emulate a flash drive and stream audio through it continuously. I’ll start with GitHub as maybe there is already something similar to start with. I’ll report back if we can make it work
sduck
Mr. Duck
If you figure something out along those lines you'll be my hero - I wish you luck!
FWIW way back in the development days of the model 3, when I was trying to pitch the aux jack idea, another thing I threw them was the idea of a proprietary streaming audio usb dongle, tied to a small software patch on their end connecting it to the audio system that would only be activated if you used their dongle. Judging from the responses I got, they actually liked this idea a lot, but of course it never happened.
I haven't come up yet with any solutions, but know more about USB than I ever needed to know. I need a Python programmer that is willing to intercept the audio stream, and control the USB Mass Storage Device output on a Raspberry Pi. All that and it has to be recognized as such by the Tesla. It may break copyright rules as the stream is meant for streaming not storage even though I'm not actually storing it.
As I typed this the weird music I'm playing on Qobuz just had a line "media streaming app" in the lyrics. See, they are listening and watching every move we make.
As I typed this the weird music I'm playing on Qobuz just had a line "media streaming app" in the lyrics. See, they are listening and watching every move we make.
No solutions still, but I now at least have the car! The closest I've come is there is software that can capture a media stream and write it to mass storage. It is not completely legal from a copyright standpoint to do that. But from my standpoint, I'm not storing the music to steal it, I'm just looking to spoof the Tesla into thinking it is reading mass storage, but as a continuous stream. Once played it won't be saved, same as if I were wifi streaming as I do at home.
I tried Qobuz on the web and it played 24/96 music through the browser, but as others have said it stops playing while driving, and it also stopped playing once the browser was hidden by another car app. It sounded pretty good too and it is a shame that I can't play it while driving. I see there is a future upgrade that is purported to include Tidal, Amazon and Apple music "and others" but didn't explicitly say Qobuz. Most audio devices and software though will support both Tidal and Qobuz, almost as if their api is the same. I like Qobuz for home use, and I was getting to like it for car use too in my old minivan.
I'll keep looking.
I tried Qobuz on the web and it played 24/96 music through the browser, but as others have said it stops playing while driving, and it also stopped playing once the browser was hidden by another car app. It sounded pretty good too and it is a shame that I can't play it while driving. I see there is a future upgrade that is purported to include Tidal, Amazon and Apple music "and others" but didn't explicitly say Qobuz. Most audio devices and software though will support both Tidal and Qobuz, almost as if their api is the same. I like Qobuz for home use, and I was getting to like it for car use too in my old minivan.
I'll keep looking.
It isn't a rumor since Elon announced it. Whether it happens or not is another thing.
And nothing new to report on streaming workarounds. I've been too busy enjoying the driving, but I can't say I've enjoyed the sound. It just isn't very well balanced. I've been looking at the options for upgrades of the speakers but those are pretty limited as you probably all know, and all seem to be DIY. I get nervous about DIYing on a $40k car.
And nothing new to report on streaming workarounds. I've been too busy enjoying the driving, but I can't say I've enjoyed the sound. It just isn't very well balanced. I've been looking at the options for upgrades of the speakers but those are pretty limited as you probably all know, and all seem to be DIY. I get nervous about DIYing on a $40k car.
I agree. It is hard to believe that Tesla, who is known to include great sound systems in their vehicles, would not provide any way to play back high res digital or analog inputs. This is just stupid. Hope they fix this soon in an update.
I am also a qobuz user. Like it much better than tidal.
what rate/quality does the M3 BT link provide?
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sduck
Mr. Duck
Only the bare minimum SBC drivers, you'll get midrange mp3 quality through it. No kind of aptX drivers.
That’s terrible. What are they thinking? How can such basic technology be missing from such an advanced car?
Has anyone succeeded in adding an analog input by surgery?
Knightshade
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Umm you can stream from your phone via BT and run it thru the CRAP system that elon provides, or you can pony up 3-7K or more for a PROFESSIONALLY installed system. Justkeep in mind that you will get *sugar* from the service department EVERY time you go in for service because the service advisor will blame EVERYTHING wrong on the fact that you have an aftermartket system
This may be fine if you maintain a personal music collection and know what you want to play ahead of time but it is no substitute for a streaming approach. Modern times have moved so much in favor of streaming that many people no longer have/own a personal music collection.
sduck
Mr. Duck
You can add an aux input, via the antenna input to the FM radio. I have no personal experience with the audio quality, but have heard that it's actually pretty good, much better than a FM transponder type thing. It involves a bit of surgery - you have to pull the default antenna input, and install a box that coverts an audio signal to whatever format that is. I actually bought all the parts to do this, but have yet to do it - it's kind of a big job. There's a thread on this here somewhere - I think if you look for threads about installing SiriusXM boxes you'll find it.
That would work if we had no other options but is really a last resort. There is already an existing bluetooth link with at least SBC (most basic) protocol that would likely sound significantly better than the FM path, which has to pass through the FM receiver/discriminator and associated IF stages before it gets to the amplifier.
Has anyone been able to tap in an analog input just prior to the pre amp/power amp?
EDIT: apologies sduck, I just realized you are the one who told me Tesla offers BT SBC in the first place. Surely this has to sound better than the ant path?
Has anyone been able to tap in an analog input just prior to the pre amp/power amp?
EDIT: apologies sduck, I just realized you are the one who told me Tesla offers BT SBC in the first place. Surely this has to sound better than the ant path?
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