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Audio: Sound System Quality?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by STxTesla, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. STxTesla

    STxTesla Sig #1278

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    I am very interested in the quality of music coming out of a vehicle's sound system.
    I once owned a Hyundai Genesis...and bought the car because of it's outstanding sound system.
    One of the selling points of the car was that the sound system was the same as that used in the
    Rolls Royce Phantom.

    With all that said....how does the upgraded sound system rate in the Model S?

    I just reserved a Signature Series S today after being on the waiting list for some time. I will test
    drive the Model S in Houston in August...but was wondering what people are thinking about
    the music quality.
     
  2. vfx

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    A recent review said they make their own speakers in-house. (!)
     
  3. Mogwai

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    Could you post some pictures? I've been dying to see some user pictures/reviews.
     
  4. Lyon

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    I'm not a hardcore audiophile or anything but I do appreciate a high-end stereo. I was pleasantly surprised by the upgraded system in the Signature vehicle I drove. I would recommend loading a USB stick with some of your favorite music because the selection that they have in the car for the test drive is pretty lame, IMO.
     
  5. SCW-Greg

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    I was in the store tonight, to listen more closely to it. At Washington Square we have production #50, which does have the Sound Studio package. Interesting thing, if you center the sound to just the driver's position, not center of the car, a significant amount of subwoofer bass is dropped out in the process. If you center the sound back to the center of the car, the audio quality achieves its peak "tuned" performance. I think this needs more tuning to have a broader range of quality performance, IMO.
     
  6. DrComputer

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    One thing the is really wrong with the sound system on the S is that it only has volume levels from 1-11. This is way to narrow of a gradient scale to adjust the volume level where you want it. My Lexus LS600hL with it's Mark Levinson Reference sound system goes from 1-40. Since I've only been able to spend a few minutes in the car and haven't had any high quality music to test with it is really hard to say if the upgraded system really can compare to other high-end systems.
     
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    An alternative to this would to still have the "1 to 11" thing but have a dial in between the numbers, so you have gradient between them.
     
  8. 100thMonkey

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    I would really like more feedback on this. in our test drive the guy wouldn't let us plug in an ipod and we could only listen to satalite radio, which is too tin can ish for me... just couldn't tell how good the stereo was. sound quality is a big deal to me and I find it's not always about spending more, there are just some sound systems that sound better to me than others. the JBL in our highlander has just the right balance for me and it holds well when turned up. I also have had some epic music listening moments on our Altec Lancing computer speakers at home, so go figure!
     
  9. Beavis

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    With a July 2013 delivery date, there will be plenty of time for you to get feedback on the sound system before you have to lock in. I have already locked in and am taking a giant leap of faith that the promised sound quality will be there.
     
  10. W.Petefish

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    Having driven a Model S during the LA event, I can say that the sound system is pretty nice. (although maybe missing a couple of octaves... might just be my ears.)
     
  11. Todd Burch

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    As I recall the sound was a little weak on the low end, but it could have been the equalizer, the song being played, or just that the sound system wasn't yet complete or tuned. We know the test drive cars were rushed out the door so I'm not making any final decision based on that.
     
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    Yeah, I spent some time last night tuning their music to the way I like to listen to it; EQ, volume, and then experimenting with the centering of the sound. As you experiment with it, you'll discover where it sounds good, and where it gets weak in a hurry.

    I'd like to bring in some of my test songs that I tune my sound system with here at home (for clean bass response, high-end, etc). Ultimately, we're all waiting for the opportunity to compare the two sound systems, if possible, side-by-side.
     
  13. Kipernicus

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    I share your concern about the volume control. Hopefully it is logarithmic, so that you can really fine tune the soft volume but at louder volumes you don't need that many gradients.
     
  14. Mogwai

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    Anyone know how easy it will be to install aftermarket subwoofers to the model s? I'd really like to put 2 nice 12" or 15" subs in the back where the child seats would go.
    Specifically speaking, will we need to get an amp, or will they run off the car battery? Would it be better to get an amp anyway?
     
  15. MikeK

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    I'm also concerned by the "it goes to 11" factor. I do appreciate the Spinal Tap reference, but as someone who wrote the software for a couple of music players, I can tell you that we used 100 steps in our volume curve (on a logarithmic scale), and that was about right. Granted, that was for an indoor product, so a car may not need quite so much fine adjustment, but 11 steps still seems very limited.

    I'm interested to hear how the balance/fader control affected the sub, and I'm actually sort of glad to hear that there was a configuration that made the sub sound good, because that means there can be a software tweak to make the sound "fatter" if needed. The other thing I learned from working on music players is that it's all in the fine tuning.
     
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    To me that extra space at the back of the "Frunk" seems ideal for a subwoofer. I wonder how easy it would be to make a cutout going into the passenger compartment?
     
  17. TEG

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    Really?! I am surprised by this. It seems like there are so many makers of speakers, and it is nothing EV specific, so it seems like there would be low margins and lots of competition... Plus decades of experience learning how to do it right. Does Tesla think they can do it better and/or cheaper than all the other options?
     
  18. MikeK

    MikeK R#129, TSLA shareholder

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    I doubt that it's true. I've seen things that said that Tesla developed the sound system in house, but I doubt very much that that means that they developed the speakers.
     
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    I agree. The article that stated this was most likely just incorrect.
     
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