Msjulie
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Yep and I'd go so far as unsafe design (hiding features deep in menus is an easily avoidable driver distraction)
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Auto headlights with wipers function deleted
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Yep and I'd go so far as unsafe design (hiding features deep in menus is an easily avoidable driver distraction)
Here’s a recording of what I’m talking about — as of 2022.8.2 the card no longer displays when you push forward the left stalk to trigger auto high beams. It still does with regular high beams, meaning, if you want the card you need to flash the person in front of you.
Msjulie
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I maintain that having to use a menu for heated seats is an unnecessarily less safe way to find the button. It used to be completely visible which is no longer true (I still can't fathom the why of those decisions)
Heated seats is just one example which in our household is a priority, I realize maybe not to everyone but how flipping hard would it be to have some muscle-memory consistency for some basic functions
If they had made headlights, wipers, and heated seats icons that could be put on the bottom bar and allowed more icons than just four to be put on the bottom bar, that would have made V11 significantly better than it is.
But automatic headlights should come on with the wipers (or at least have that as a user-configurable setting), because that is required in many jurisdictions (and many want that anyway even if not required).
But automatic headlights should come on with the wipers (or at least have that as a user-configurable setting), because that is required in many jurisdictions (and many want that anyway even if not required).
smogne41
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That would have made V11 an actual upgrade, and not a frustrating dumpster fire. We can't go having that...
Msjulie
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Indeed sorry, just part of the V11-made-things-worse-and-hidden-cause-why complaint.
JerryT75
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Press the button on the end of the left stalk and it will give you immediate access to wiper controls.
Msjulie
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JerryT75
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You can just press in the button on the left stalk and it brings up wiper controls
JerryT75
Member
Pull back towards you on left stalk and headlight setting go immediately on screen. Both are quick to navigate to if that makes it easier for you.
As well as flashing oncoming traffic.
JerryT75
Member
I'm pointing out that its an easy way to access controls. I personally wouldn't do this while facing oncoming traffic.
JerryT75
Member
I just realized that you can also access them by pushing forward on the left stalk instead. This works without flashing your high beams.
Agree totally. It's safer and should be SOP for drivers, even if there is no requirement in your jurisdiction.
The whole point is this car was designed to be autonomous. The wipers are automatic and the headlights used to automatically come on with the wipers. Now they don't. It's a step backwards for no apparent reason.
The why we're forced to guess at.
My initial assumption was the functionality was broken. Mistakes happen so I figured once it was reported they would fix it. I reported it during a chat session.
Then I heard on here from other members that the user manual was changed so that would mean it was intentional.
The only intentional reason I can think of is the auto-wipers are sporadic. But, they could have simple done some auto-on for 15 min if the wipers wiped more than X times in 1 min or something like that.
Snow Drift
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It can and should be an option we can select or unselect, i.e. "turn on headlights if windshield wipers are running?" Those who want it can choose it. To each his own.
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