Auto High Beam making Autosteer unusable

[ZenRockGarden]

I have a 2022 build with matrix lights. I have not found drivers ever flash at me and I find the automatic control acceptable. Then again I'm driving around SoCal and there is always significant enough traffic that the highs are rarely on when there are other cars around.

That's kinda-true. If there is enough traffic on the opposite side of the highway that auto-high-beams never engage, yeah they work ok (by not doing anything).

They are pretty miserable in most other conditions - frequently blinding oncoming traffic.

Happily one press on the left stalk disables the auto feature, and now you have manual high beams, which is what I wanted in the first place.

 

[Supcom]

These Matrix lights are much brighter. Maybe that could be a one reason? I have already lowered my lights a bit.

I have matrix lights on my 2021 M3 and they work perfectly. Nobody flashes my car.

 

[MeltingICEage]

Happily one press on the left stalk disables the auto feature, and now you have manual high beams, which is what I wanted in the first place.

I keep reading this but either my car is different or I'm too stupid to catch on. I still get stuck in a mode with autosteer active where I cannot activate high beams (unless I continuously hold the stalk towards me!). Most of my night driving is in the country with minimal traffic but plenty of deer. I need high beams for all the advance notice I can get.

 

[ZenRockGarden]

I keep reading this but either my car is different or I'm too stupid to catch on. I still get stuck in a mode with autosteer active where I cannot activate high beams (unless I continuously hold the stalk towards me!). Most of my night driving is in the country with minimal traffic but plenty of deer. I need high beams for all the advance notice I can get.

Engage Auto Pilot. This will enable auto-high-beams as default. Push the left stalk away from you one time. You are now in manual-high-beam mode with your lights on low-beam until you decide otherwise (or until you re-engage AP which will start the adventure over again)

 

[ZenRockGarden]

I have matrix lights on my 2021 M3 and they work perfectly. Nobody flashes my car.

You are probably not running in auto-high-beam mode which is the topic here

 

[roger2282]

Just experienced this after last update. I do a.lot of night driving and have had to stop using it due to the autobeam blinding everyone.

 

[ZenRockGarden]

Just experienced this after last update. I do a.lot of night driving and have had to stop using it due to the autobeam blinding everyone.

Engage auto-pilot, push left stalk away from you one time to disable auto-highbeams. Problem gone.

 

[MeltingICEage]

Engage auto-pilot, push left stalk away from you one time to disable auto-highbeams. Problem gone.

I can do that and the gray headlight symbol with an A in it goes away. Then the low beams are on but I cannot switch to high beams. Really messed up. So much for "supervised autonomy"!

 

[nvx1977]

Engage Auto Pilot. This will enable auto-high-beams as default. Push the left stalk away from you one time. You are now in manual-high-beam mode with your lights on low-beam until you decide otherwise (or until you re-engage AP which will start the adventure over again)

You are missing the point. Typically there are 2 modes of manual autobeam usage: pull toward you and hold for as long as you need them, OR, push the stalk away from you, and they stay on forever until you pull back on the stalk.

People are saying that with auto high beam, you no longer have the option to push forward on the stalk to lock the high beams on.

 

[nvx1977]

I can do that and the gray headlight symbol with an A in it goes away. Then the low beams are on but I cannot switch to high beams. Really messed up. So much for "supervised autonomy"!

your only recourse for activating high beams manually (if you disable auto high beams) is to pull the stalk toward you and hold it. Works if you just need the high beams for a short period, or if you're anticipating some oncoming traffic. But for long stretches, you have no manual option anymore.

 

[MeltingICEage]

Thanks for confirming that its not just me.
(Maybe I can rig up a solenoid to push the lever and wire it up to an 'old school' dimmer switch on the floor! Haha, anybody else remember those?)

 

[ZenRockGarden]

your only recourse for activating high beams manually (if you disable auto high beams) is to pull the stalk toward you and hold it. Works if you just need the high beams for a short period, or if you're anticipating some oncoming traffic. But for long stretches, you have no manual option anymore.

I can see this trouble for a rural use case where manual extended use of highbeams is desired. In my well lit city situation, I just don't want the high beams doing anything at all, so disabling them with one press upon AP engagement works.

 

[nvx1977]

I can see this trouble for a rural use case where manual extended use of highbeams is desired. In my well lit city situation, I just don't want the high beams doing anything at all, so disabling them with one press upon AP engagement works.

I am with you. I generally don't need or prefer high beams unless I actually can't see something. I rarely use it. But clearly lots of people are not happy that a pretty standard manual high beam function is gone with this auto-high-beam setup.

 

[Twiglett]

your only recourse for activating high beams manually (if you disable auto high beams) is to pull the stalk toward you and hold it. Works if you just need the high beams for a short period, or if you're anticipating some oncoming traffic. But for long stretches, you have no manual option anymore.

Wait, what?
So the issue with auto high beams is that they don't turn off for oncoming cars - I've got that.
How does that prevent you from treating the auto high beam like a manual version.
See a car? Turn them off, just like manual high beams, just push the stalk forward.
Long stretch of road? - turn on auto high beams then off again as needed.
Short stretch? Pull back just like a regular car.
Manual version hasn't gone - the auto doesn't magically stop them acting like manual high beams, other than they sometime dip later than you'd like. But that won't be a problem because you just turn them off when needed, just like manual.
The only "recourse" is to use them like a manual version.
I don't see the problem here.

 

[terranx]

Wait, what?
So the issue with auto high beams is that they don't turn off for oncoming cars - I've got that.
How does that prevent you from treating the auto high beam like a manual version.
See a car? Turn them off, just like manual high beams, just push the stalk forward.
Long stretch of road? - turn on auto high beams then off again as needed.
Short stretch? Pull back just like a regular car.
Manual version hasn't gone - the auto doesn't magically stop them acting like manual high beams, other than they sometime dip later than you'd like. But that won't be a problem because you just turn them off when needed, just like manual.
The only "recourse" is to use them like a manual version.
I don't see the problem here.

Because you can't force them on. It's either off or auto while in autopilot. The car tends to over react to road signs and whatnot, so you just get constant flashing of the high beams when you want them to just stay on.

 

[Twiglett]

Because you can't force them on. It's either off or auto while in autopilot. The car tends to over react to road signs and whatnot, so you just get constant flashing of the high beams when you want them to just stay on.

OK, I get that, but how does that force somebody to drive along holding the stalk back for a long drive.
Never using auto high beams just because it might occasionally dip is a little extreme.

 

[terranx]

OK, I get that, but how does that force somebody to drive along holding the stalk back for a long drive.
Never using auto high beams just because it might occasionally dip is a little extreme.

It’s not occasionally.

I just end up not using autopilot at night because of how bad it is.

 

[Sorcerak]

The whole AI day thing was such a joke in that regard when they can't even get auto high beam or wipers working properly than several years old cars with no AI.

 

[WyomingEV]

Agreed, before you make a dancing robot Tesla - PLEASE fix auto high beams or at the very least please do NOT make it Auto when using AP. You can see in your data that we turn it off right away.

 

[BlueTurtleAndy]

My auto high beams always turn on when other cars are nearby. It ruins the night driving experience because it constantly flashes higher then lower when cars are definitely in the “blinding range”.

Meanwhile, my 2020 GMC auto high beams work much better and can “see” cars a mile away it seems and turns them off in a mostly appropriate manner.