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Autonomous Car Progress

Discussion in 'Autopilot & Autonomous/FSD' started by stopcrazypp, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. stopcrazypp

    stopcrazypp Well-Known Member

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    You are right they did add a camera system in the end of last year, but it's optical cameras, not infrared.
    BMW's Extended Traffic Jam Assistant System wants to stare into your eyes

    I'm aware that there are a bunch of relatively expensive cars coming out that will have them, but that's still very far from saying "most modern cars" have it.
     
  2. stopcrazypp

    stopcrazypp Well-Known Member

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    Mercedes will have it next year according to the linked wiki. But I looked at the current 2020 S-class model and there is no such thing. Which model did you see it in? Or maybe it is a Europe only thing?
    Build Your Own 2020 S 450 Sedan
     
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    Mach-E will use an IR camera. I don't consider that expensive compared to Tesla's models.
    Also the mercedes (2021 Mercedes-Benz S-Class) coming out this year will definitely have it.
    Also Nissan propilot 2.0 on the skyline has an IR camera (so will the Nissan Ariya coming out this year)
     
  4. stopcrazypp

    stopcrazypp Well-Known Member

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    Not saying against Tesla, saying against the whole market. For it to be true that "most modern cars" have it, it would need to be included in much cheaper cars like the Camry, Civic, etc. It's getting a bit off topic, but just wanted to point it out given I had a similar argument with someone in Jalopnik that seemed to be thinking everyone other than Tesla has a cabin camera system for L2, when that is far from the case (the reality is most cars still rely on the steering wheel).
     
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    Nah, the type of users that enjoy new tech would be the type to YT it. I had adaptive speed control when it was brand new and it was all over YT. This is like showing a tv when there are already movies. Cool, but meh, ok. Wish they would use our eye cameras is all I got out of it.
     
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    Good read.

    In short, the article explains that "hands-free" driver assist does not mean a higher SAE Level or self-driving. "Hands-free" systems like SuperCruise are still L2 driver assist, just like Tesla's Autopilot. They just have different ODD's and different driver monitoring systems. In the case of SuperCruise, the automaker chose a driver monitor system that does not require hands on the wheel and they restricted SuperCruise to a more limited and safer ODD, so they allow hands-free. Whereas Tesla chose a driver monitoring system that does require hands on the wheel and they allow AP to be used in a wider ODD and perhaps less than reliable conditions. So Tesla requires hands-on. In essence, both are L2, just different design choices for how to implement the L2.

    Understanding “Hands-Free” Driver Assistance Systems
     
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  7. 95gator

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    Nice, true and concise, three of my favorite things. Well said brother.
     
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    Ford's Mach-E may have a eye tracking system in the car, but they aren't currently using it. They currently require that you apply torque to the steering wheel every ~15 seconds.
     
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    They made a statement that there will be an OTA later this year to update the ADAS system and enable hands free mode.
     
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