Autonomous Car Progress

[zmarty]

Mobileye had another presentation at CES. I watched the whole thing.

Highlights:

• They are launching something they call L2+, which uses HD maps to better determine where the lanes are (around 30 minutes in).
  
• They are only just starting to crowdsource HD maps using cars from 3 OEMs.
  
• They plan to launch L4 around 2020 (but my guess is 2021 or later).
• They proposed a mathematical model of evaluating the correctness of driver-less car algorithms.

 

[DKPowers]

I'm pretty sure most of you have seen this already but for those who haven't:

FSD with just cameras. Although I don't know what's happening with them now, this video is from March 2017.

 

[banned-66611]

Like the Tesla full self driving demo, it's likely fake. Known route, avoiding hard to handle edge cases.

 

[WannabeOwner]

fake

Hmm ... I have a different definition of that. In the video the car yields to other traffic, for me to define the video as fake would need some sort of remote-control by a human.

The fact that it is a "test route", with whatever that entails - even if magnetic lines have been painted on the road - I think is still valid. You have to start somewhere and "Known route, avoiding hard to handle edge cases" is fine as a starting point. It seems obvious to me, from that video, that the car is not yet ready to drive unfamiliar routes, coast-to-coast , etc.(otherwise it would be doing that ...) so seems entirely valid as a proof of concept to me.

But unless someone can suggest to me otherwise, I think "fake" is not appropriate

 

[SlicedBr3ad]

so first google, and now gm.

 

[NerdUno]

What Could Possibly Go Wrong??

GM unveils autonomous Bolt EV without steering wheel or pedal, aims to bring it to market next year

 

[SlicedBr3ad]

What Could Possibly Go Wrong??

GM unveils autonomous Bolt EV without steering wheel or pedal, aims to bring it to market next year

literally the article i posted just before you. in there, they mentioned google tried it first and step away. i wouldn't consider the steering wheel in stone but the bottom line is that google is driving around, GM is asking for government permission to do this next year, and crickets from Tesla.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Be allowed to deploy != Bring to market

 

[SlicedBr3ad]

Be allowed to deploy != Bring to market

they're (GM Cruise) is certainly making strides and visibility. agree with your comment but its not just empty promises either and they are doing their homework it seems.

GM is bringing its all-electric and autonomous Chevy Bolt EV prototypes to New York

 

[NerdUno]

Be allowed to deploy != Bring to market

What? Misleading?? You mean like promising a coast-to-coast drive without hands by the end of 2017. The nerve of these hucksters.

 

[cwerdna]

Waymo’s self-driving Chrysler Pacifica begins testing in San Francisco

 

[scottf200]

Mobileye had another presentation at CES. I watched the whole thing.
Highlights:

• They are launching something they call L2+, which uses HD maps to better determine where the lanes are (around 30 minutes in).
  
• They are only just starting to crowdsource HD maps using cars from 3 OEMs.
  
• They plan to launch L4 around 2020 (but my guess is 2021 or later).
• They proposed a mathematical model of evaluating the correctness of driver-less car algorithms.

Great job summarizing!

Nissan's self diving looks pretty good. Occasionally you have to take over, with plenty of warning, but only in situations like when it's behind a stopped bus and won't pull around by itself.
Note that they all use lidar.

That is not true according to Mobileye (intel) 2018 CES presentation on Nissan ProPilot use in the USA.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

What? Misleading?? You mean like promising a coast-to-coast drive without hands by the end of 2017. The nerve of these hucksters.

The article headline was misleading.

 

[banned-66611]

Great job summarizing!


That is not true according to Mobileye (intel) 2018 CES presentation on Nissan ProPilot use in the USA.

I was talking about their FSD prototype, which does is LiDAR. The current lane keeping system does not.

 

[cwerdna]

Not really an indication of progress of any of the players but perhaps more to pay attention to?
Navigant Puts Tesla In Last Place Among Autonomous Vehicles

A bit more at Navigant Research Leaderboard: Automated Driving Vehicles. The report itself isn't free...

 

[tander]

I guess Tesla is counting on their idea that "twice as good as a human" is good enough for the regulators. We shall see how that goes...

Is there any news on regulation? Last I heard was sometime this summer the Trump admin will put out guidelines.

 

[zmarty]

GM faces lawsuit after crash between motorcyclist and self-driving Chevy Bolt

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

GM faces lawsuit after crash between motorcyclist and self-driving Chevy Bolt

More like GM faces lawsuit because someone smells money.

Gotta cash in when opportunity strikes.

 

[lunitiks]

Statistically, shouldn’t the benjamins smell stronger at google corp?

Examining accident reports involving autonomous vehicles in California

 

[cwerdna]

Waymo’s self-driving minivans are coming to Atlanta
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/22/16919716/waymo-self-driving-minivan-atlanta