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Autonomous Vehicles Legislation (U.S)

Discussion in 'Autonomous Vehicles' started by Bebop, Sep 6, 2017.

  1. Bebop

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    I read some random comment online that said the language of the bill specifies the liability falls on the driver. Is that true?

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    It was on Electrek:

    Daniel Lorence2 hours ago

    First glance over the document and this paragraph below stands out to me. It sounds like people are still help accountable for overviewing their car while it's self-driving. So basically you better get good at texting and supervising your car driving.

    "e) COMMON LAW LIABILITY
    (1) IN GENERAL—Compliance with a motor vehicle safety standard prescribed under this chapter does not exempt a person from liability at common law."
     
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    Yawn. Clearly liability is not going to shift when using a product. That's not how it works in the US. If my Rooma runs over a kid and injures them, I can't blame iRobot unless I can prove the product was defective. If I'm responsible, I pay. If they are, they pay. If we both are, we pay in proportion to our blame. Seems a lot fairer than some stupid arbitrary apportioning of liability. The European system creates a moral hazard where drivers can create situations of great risk and shirk their responsibility to be rational actors because they enjoy immunity simply because their cars are FSD. Its untenable.

    That being said, this legislation does nothing except crush individual states' ability to regulate driving on their own terms. Its a non-story that is being hyped to the extreme.
     
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    This should help the economy.

    More auto sales are on the way.

    The work to get the software and hardware working right will employee countless individuals.
     
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    And software validation
     
  7. Bebop

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    Back then nothing was being done nor any serious legislation was being introduced regarding the subject matter. At least not that I'm aware of on a national level.

    This is a good step in the right direction and thus one step closer to FSD. At least we are making some progress on what feels like nothing has been done.
     
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    And software.
     
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    Hey guys- I just heard that Caterpillar is running some heavy mine hauling equipment with no body on board, but driving from a computer counsel a few miles away. So, it is NOT self driving, as there is a driver, just on board. How is this defined? Autonomous? Could a semi-fleet be driven by the home office?
     
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    That's remote control. It's not autonomous in any way.

    I think all states require a driver in the car.
     
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    OK - Remote Control.....And all on the mine-owned property. Do you think there is any information collected that can be used to assist the next shift? (mobileye, navidia, AI, fleet-learning)?
    Is there anything in this "news" that could assist Tesla in their quest toward getting a driver to move into the back seat?
     
  12. Snuffysasa

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    The senate should pass their legislation by YE'2017. Q1'2018 at the latest.

    Once that happens it should be passed by full congress in no more than 3 months. most likely less.
     

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