Where are the other investor reports on the test rides, can someone provide links ?
Here is the Morgan Stanley report.
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Where are the other investor reports on the test rides, can someone provide links ?
Could it be that it performed so well those Wall Street people did not want to report it
I haven't seen any thorough reports about the test drives, but this article has a couple of short quotes from participants:Where are the other investor reports on the test rides, can someone provide links ?
Are you making mozzarella? You seem to be stretching a lot.
Yup. Doesn't necessarily say anything about the reliability of Uber's system though. According to their 2018 report, they had 70,165 disengagements on 26,899 self-driven miles, or about 2.6 per mile. For comparison, Waymo had 0.00009 per mile.
That was sarcasm of course but then again there could be some truth to it. I guarantee you we'd see them all over the news if one of the test rides crashed. Here are three who did take test drives.
Based on the patents and demonstrations from Tesla, I think it was slightly disingenuous of Tesla to say they aren't using HD maps. You saw the 3D radar rendering in the demo, very neat. They've patented a way to improve GPS location using cameras, again very clever. They clearly are doing what you suggest- the data is there. Elon said they used to use HD maps. What they found, taking Elon's word at face value, is that the HD maps sometimes impaired driving. I think the confusion is Tesla's emphasis that the mapping data cannot be a primary source of information; that it is, as you suggest, there for a fail safe only, but the vision should always be most trusted.
I also suspect there's a terminology discrepancy for the sake of marketing. HD mapping created using vision+radar+magic instead of LiDAR is something Elon puts under the banner of vision and refuses to call it "HD maps" to differentiate it from competitors. Again, it's not a lack of data. They've shown that.
Here is the Morgan Stanley report.
The difference was the 2016 demo was a one off success for video purposes, whilst this route was done multiple times with different passengers in the car.So even though Tesla was able to pick their own route, the driver still had to step in?
I mean we have already seen them do a fully autonomous drive back when AP2 came out. And nobody had to step in, in the video.
I would have imagined that at least this 20 minute drive with Analysts would work perfectly. What is this? Amateur hour? 20 minutes of geo fenced driving should be doable...
The difference was the 2016 demo was a one off success for video purposes, whilst this route was done multiple times with different passengers in the car.
The whole presentation was... interesting. The things that worry me are that they're looking at trying to do a city robotaxi first -- possibly the hardest possible use case fora vision-primary system. And, that they've ditched any kind of HD maps, or realtime HD mapping efforts.
I would have imagined that at least this 20 minute drive with Analysts would work perfectly. What is this? Amateur hour? 20 minutes of geo fenced driving should be doable...
I am not sure it was geofenced in the strictest sense. Tesla did not modify the software just for that specific route. They did not hard code anything. They just picked the route, that's all. It was a live test drive with no tricks. And they did the route over and over again for different investors. So there was bound to be a test drive with one disengagement.
Why not allow the investors in the car to pick a route within a fixed radius?
That was sarcasm of course but then again there could be some truth to it. I guarantee you we'd see them all over the news if one of the test rides crashed. Here are three who did take test drives.
@R.S
It is obvious Tesla does not have any currently demonstrable lead (as in demonstrable by a test drive), otherwise they would have demonstrated it.