I read this article (Tesla Autopilot 2.0: next gen Autopilot powered by more radar, new triple camera, some equipment already in production) and I was happy that autopilot 2.0 is coming out very soon, but I am worried that as a Model X owner I am not going to be able to upgrade. I hope for the best because I have had the car for less than 6 months.
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RIZE
Member
I won't be holding my breath on a retrofit. It'll be on my next Tesla.. or 3.0 by then..
JimmyAZ
Member
I'm sure a retrofit will be possible. Whether it will be financially reasonable is another story. I still get so surprised by people that feel the vehicle they paid for will no longer satisfy their needs after a new version comes out. It's still a terrific car that manages 60-80% of my driving needs without my need for intervention. 2.0 will be great, but not necessary. I would think for my 2015 it would be a cost that I could never get back out of the car. The VIN would never state that was original equipment too. I wonder if that would make it even more difficult to recoup?
My S is the first car I've ever leased, and it was for the sole reason that it was a snapshot in tech at the time. The Model 3 will be purchased for the tax incentives and will be equipped with the 2.0 hardware. But it won't be Level 4 autonomous, and I'm totally fine with that. I would never upgrade the hardware. I'd just sell the car and buy another I guess.
My S is the first car I've ever leased, and it was for the sole reason that it was a snapshot in tech at the time. The Model 3 will be purchased for the tax incentives and will be equipped with the 2.0 hardware. But it won't be Level 4 autonomous, and I'm totally fine with that. I would never upgrade the hardware. I'd just sell the car and buy another I guess.
Chopr147
Active Member
Retrofit? The SC's sure seem to be too busy as it is. I imagine a retrofit appt. will take a year to get one. 
I changed my S to a lease just yesterday, a few days before delivery for a number of reasons but this news has me feeling better about it. 3 years no regrets and see what they have done 3 years from now
I changed my S to a lease just yesterday, a few days before delivery for a number of reasons but this news has me feeling better about it. 3 years no regrets and see what they have done 3 years from now
JimmyAZ
Member
I agree with you, Chopr147. If I upgrade my cell phone almost every year, why wouldn't I want to upgrade all the tech in my car? When I worked for Toshiba's laptop mfg plant in CA, the lifecycle was 12 months meaning the top of the line laptop in January was the worst model in December. I see no reason why the cameras, processors, and other tech would be any different in this car, not to mention laser headlights, LED tech, interfaces, curved displays, etc.
Super_Popular
Well-Known Member
JimmyAZ
Member
Lol. Depending on what you're looking for, definitely. The next gen seats would be about as far back as I'd go in the facelift cycle. Those are amazing. I don't care much for the older loaner car seats. Total personal preference though.
Tesla Autopilot 2.0: next gen Autopilot powered by more radar, new triple camera, some equipment already in production
After reading this, I am thinking maybe I should hold my model X production(if possible) or postone it. Hope Tesla makes a statement on this soon.
After reading this, I am thinking maybe I should hold my model X production(if possible) or postone it. Hope Tesla makes a statement on this soon.
Odebek
Don't Panic
I think it will be $2,500 or less... otherwise they will have a lot of owners canceling their orders and pushing off a month or two...
I seriously doubt there will be a retrofit. There was no retrofit when they added autopilot 1.0 and this version has even more hardware. Don't get your hopes up unless they've been installing the wiring harnesses all along. Even then you'll probably have to have several body panels replaced if they are adding radars in other places.
The smart thing to do is to quietly start including the new hardware in vehicles for a few months before making any sort of announcement. That's how they've handled it in the past. That should prevent order cancellations.
Agreed. If they offer a retrofit, it'll be unlike Tesla to make it just as cheap as the original option.
My money is on a price bump, like they did with the S facelift. That increase makes the owners who got the car before the hardware change feel at least a little better about their situation. Also, surely there's more cost involved with the extra hardware.
When parking sensors were introduced in the summer of 2013 Tesla wanted ~$6000 to retrofit our "classics", they claimed they couldn't just drill holes into our bumpers to install the sensors but new ones needed to be ordered blah blah blah, be prepared to write a large check if a retrofit is offered.
systemcrashed
Please Reboot
Being that the AP 2.0 will be run by a more powerful dedicated chipset, it is highly unlikely that there will be a retrofit available at a reasonable price. If there was a plan all along to include this new hardware into existing cars there might be a plug and play solution that can be added to the existing system, I'm skeptical.
Electricfan
Active Member
LOL! Or did you mean $25,000?
I got a Model S in August of 2013 right before the folding side mirrors.
The retrofit for new folding side mirrors was $2700.00 (I declined)
AP 2.0 retrofits will not be available, in my opinion, unless Tesla by some miracle allowed for this with the existing design. Meaning they can just swap the existing camera for a new triple cam without new wiring, and add new radar with little new wiring.
If they are, they won't be less than $15k
However, if the Brown family succeeds in their lawsuit (if they file one), that could give Tesla some incentive to be more reasonable.
