Autopilot does not like road repairs

[Atari2600]

Interstate 71 in Ohio recently had some repairs where the asphalt was failing where it was joined. Attached is a thumbnail of the repair and it shows how Autopilot thinks I am driving on a one lane road. In this stretch of road NoA, autopilot and FFS lane keep assist is worthless. Should Tesla get a pass or do you think the system should be able to handle a situation like this?

 

[ammulder]

Are you saying what looks like a double yellow line in the middle of the road there is just two lines of tar with a weird reflection?

 

[StealthP3D]

I don't believe AutoPilot will ever cross a solid double line. Around here that's illegal.

 

[StealthP3D]

I'm surprised AP doesn't set off the alarm and kick off to manual because it looks to me like you are driving in the oncoming lane. But maybe AP knows more about that stretch of road than I do.

 

[Atari2600]

Are you saying what looks like a double yellow line in the middle of the road there is just two lines of tar with a weird reflection?

I don't believe AutoPilot will ever cross a solid double line. Around here that's illegal.

That is a dashed white line which means you can freely pass from lane to lane. Not only is it missing this info it is missing the other lane altogether. I don't see a double yellow line there?

 

[StealthP3D]

That is a dashed white line which means you can freely pass from lane to lane. Not only is it missing this info it is missing the other lane altogether. I don't see a double yellow line there?

I'm just as confused as you. That looks like no road I've ever seen.

 

[Atari2600]

Here is a shot focused on the road. With the other shot I was focused on the screen. This is a repair that they sealed on each side.

North bound Interstate 71 in Ohio.

 

[Atari2600]

The car is supposed to have HDR cameras etc. I regret not taking video because the dashed white lines would have been easier to see.

So is a total failure of autopilot to properly see the road here acceptable?

 

[thewishmaster]

You have AP enabled and the car is clearly reading the lane, and it is autosteering at 10mph over the speed limit. I don't see this as a total failure, but I may have a different definition of this phrase in mind

 

[mhan00]

That honestly looks like a double yellow line to me in your photo. Wow. Another edge case to solve for before level 5 driving can be reached.

 

[ammulder]

What I see is what I assume @StealthP3D and AP saw — two solid yellow lines around/over the dashed white line.

I think you’re saying that’s two black road repair lines with an unfortunate yellowish reflection from the sun? I find it hard to fault AP for thinking those are lane lines in that visibility.

 

[Atari2600]

You have AP enabled and the car is clearly reading the lane, and it is autosteering at 10mph over the speed limit. I don't see this as a total failure, but I may have a different definition of this phrase in mind

I was not happy that the car would not change lanes.

When I forced the car over to the right lane and emergency lane keep assist was up my ass I was super unhappy.

Nobody can see the dashed white lines?

 

[mhan00]

I don’t see it as a big deal, btw. If it’s lane keeping and speed maintenance is fine, then whatever, you don’t have access to NoA or manually initiated ALC, big deal. Obviously, it isn’t a good thing and will definitely need to be solved for, but as is, unless the car actively puts you into danger, I don’t really consider it as a total failure.

 

[Atari2600]

Don't you have to turn off the emergency lane stuff every time you start a trip.

I have the normal lane keep assist turned off.

 

[GolanB]

I was not happy that the car would not change lanes.

When I forced the car over to the right lane and emergency lane keep assist was up my ass I was super unhappy.

Nobody can see the dashed white lines?

Did you signal before your attempt to change lanes?

 

[mhan00]

Did you signal before your attempt to change lanes?

If it sees two double yellow lines, which the reflection off the road repair makes it look like, ELDA might activate (and it sounds like it did) even with the turn signal on.

 

[Atari2600]

To get NoA to change yes... when it failed I released it from NoA and tried again. Nobody was around me and I may have steered into the other lane without a without a signal, I am unsure. My first case of autopilot rage.

 

[qdeathstar]

i think autopilot gets a pass, To me it looks like double yellows, even though it’s just the reflection... i’m sure that’s what the tesla saw as well.

 

[TGordon]

I was not happy that the car would not change lanes.

When I forced the car over to the right lane and emergency lane keep assist was up my ass I was super unhappy.

Nobody can see the dashed white lines?

I see dashed white lines what appears to be at least a car length apart from each other, seemingly painted over the left of two solid yellow lines. If I encountered this in real life as it appears in your photos I would be really confused and stick to the right lane until I was sure it was a totally botched paint job from external context. I wouldn't want Autopilot making that call at this stage.

 

[whatthe2]

I was not happy that the car would not change lanes.

When I forced the car over to the right lane and emergency lane keep assist was up my ass I was super unhappy.

Nobody can see the dashed white lines?

I see dashed white lines, And also yellow lines.