chronopc
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It's very possible for regen to be working while the car is accelerating. For example if you're going down hill.But regen should not have been working while the car was accelerating
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It's very possible for regen to be working while the car is accelerating. For example if you're going down hill.But regen should not have been working while the car was accelerating
It was uphill and the car accelerated by about 20 miles per hour in about 1 second.It's very possible for regen to be working while the car is accelerating. For example if you're going down hill.
We'll need the logs to sort out exactly what happened.It was uphill and the car accelerated by about 20 miles per hour in about 1 second.
Unknown, the OP of that thread stopped posting, so he either didn't update it, never got an answer, or got an answer he didn't like and didn't want to share it. Hopefully you'll let us know how yours resolves.
See the post above you. Logs can be pulled from the SD card, but the expert recommends to not bother.In a potentially contentious case like this:
Will Tesla let OP have access to the logs?
Will Tesla allow a 3rd party to access the logs?
More than likely, all cases will typically reveal some level of human error. But, the issue is how can the car's system lead to human error and how can it prevent it. That's why pulling logs can be beneficial even if they reveal what we already know. If Tesla made it easy to understand common events of human error they could better build a system to protect us from our own mistakes, or we could be more aware of these events which would then make them less likely to happen.
I ate the steering wheel from the sudden stop. This was before Toyota made any software changes to improve their systems.
Let’s assume that Tesla determines that the OP mistakenly pressed the accelerator and not the brake. How do you suggest that Tesla, or any other manufacturer, prevent the driver from accidentally pressing the wrong pedal?
I had a 2010 Prius prior to the 3 and went through all of the Unintended Acceleration claims against Toyota. Every one was determined to be operator error based on the vehicle data.
There were many of us on the PriusChat forum that tested the claim that the Prius brakes did not override the accelerator. I floored the accelerator and then hit the brakes while holding down the accelerator. I ate the steering wheel from the sudden stop. This was before Toyota made any software changes to improve their systems.
In your given scenario you are correct you can't stop someone from hitting the gas instead of the brake because you can't physically change them. But who's to say that the logs couldn't reveal that hitting the wrong pedal is a common mistake and that the pedals should be moved further apart in a later build? That's the whole point of keeping these logs.
I am making the point that if the logs showed there was a common human behavior that caused a safety issue, they could better come up with a solution in knowing what lead up to that human behavior. Tesla is obviously doing just that: maintaining and reviewing logs for future improvements. Making the logs more accessible to drivers, even at an aggregate level, could improve driver behavior without the need of Tesla intervention and without having to "test" reported issues (like you eating the steering wheel).
LOL, can you reproduce this in the 3. And video please.
I do plan to test this on my 3 just for assurance purposes. I will not be able to video since I will be holding the wheel really tight this time
I personally wouldn't want the pedals to be further apart. I'm used to switching quickly from the accelerator to the brake to avoid a collision. If the pedals were further apart I could conceivably miss the brake pedal in a high stress situation and then be in an accident.In your given scenario you are correct you can't stop someone from hitting the gas instead of the brake because you can't physically change them. But who's to say that the logs couldn't reveal that hitting the wrong pedal is a common mistake and that the pedals should be moved further apart in a later build? That's the whole point of keeping these logs.
black ice??Thanks.
The person behind me reported that he saw the brake lights go on through the crash so we will wait till the logs become available.
I personally wouldn't want the pedals to be further apart. I'm used to switching quickly from the accelerator to the brake to avoid a collision. If the pedals were further apart I could conceivably miss the brake pedal in a high stress situation and then be in an accident.