Sorry to hear it is wobbly, but for reference, Tesla takes a very opposite approach to Mercedes. Tesla's AP mode is strictly 100% you or 100% machine, with clear audio chimes between transitions, much like a lot of airplane autopilot systems. It's normal that you cannot influence AutoSteer by much without disengaging it. The two companies seem to have very different schools of thought of how to handle L2 ADAS human machine interactions.
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Autopilot for HW2 rolling out to all HW2 cars today!
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njxman
Member
hillestadk
Member
I wonder if I'll get this update. I paid for the original autopilot convenience features with a car that has AP2 hardware.
Ulmo
Active Member
My excitement is real! This should be no general surprise to the forum members for me getting it here two hours ago, around 2AM, in Santa Cruz county, not too far from Fremont; I got the "2 hours ago" notification on my iPhone when I woke up and saw my phone while turning off my usual wakeup alarm at 4AM, and I then ran out to do the update immediately. Here's the Unifi wifi AP point management interface statistics for the download my car did through the Internet:
I'm excited in part because this is the first update I received while at home with the car logged into the Wifi I set up just for it. Every other time the car caught me using my iPhone to wifi tether to my laptop, using my iPhone's wifi tether, while I was sitting at a SuperCharger charging. So personally I'm quite pleased that the updates actually do happen while I'm at home, instead of just when I'm on wifi tether to my phone plans at SuperChargers.
Edit: the update completed 11 minutes ago, so 4:25, so my post at around 4:15, I probably started it around 4:05 or so -- in the ballpark of 10 - 20 minutes for the update to complete. This is a small update, just uploading some AI and feature stuff. I'm pleased that AI updates aren't heavy packages to unpack; they seem to transfer mostly run-mode intact. That implies both the ability to assimilate new knowledge without a complete wipe and a fairly set file format that is readily processed to install.
I wonder how much fleet knowledge is in that 1GB file and how much is constantly upgraded over the Internet. I'm leaning toward it being in that 1GB file. That's interesting by itself.
Update 2:
This is what it looks like on an AP2 HW car without any of the assistance features paid for:
I'm excited in part because this is the first update I received while at home with the car logged into the Wifi I set up just for it. Every other time the car caught me using my iPhone to wifi tether to my laptop, using my iPhone's wifi tether, while I was sitting at a SuperCharger charging. So personally I'm quite pleased that the updates actually do happen while I'm at home, instead of just when I'm on wifi tether to my phone plans at SuperChargers.
Edit: the update completed 11 minutes ago, so 4:25, so my post at around 4:15, I probably started it around 4:05 or so -- in the ballpark of 10 - 20 minutes for the update to complete. This is a small update, just uploading some AI and feature stuff. I'm pleased that AI updates aren't heavy packages to unpack; they seem to transfer mostly run-mode intact. That implies both the ability to assimilate new knowledge without a complete wipe and a fairly set file format that is readily processed to install.
I wonder how much fleet knowledge is in that 1GB file and how much is constantly upgraded over the Internet. I'm leaning toward it being in that 1GB file. That's interesting by itself.
Update 2:
This is what it looks like on an AP2 HW car without any of the assistance features paid for:
NerdUno
Member
Home run for Elon & Co. Just completed I-526 run around Charleston in torrential rain. AutoSteer worked perfectly, and 45 MPH was just about right. The car could see better than I could. Wish it worked on non-freeway roads now, but we'll get there. Great job on the software!
Ulmo
Active Member
Amazing. It could determine lines on Highway 17 in the rain over the hill, even when I was driving in the middle of both lanes for safety reasons (can see further and react faster to mud slides and spun out cars and deer (edit: and being pushed left and right by puddles, and falling rocks). Also, on my non-paid for assistance features car, this is the first time I get lane lines on the dash screen.
I had a quiet safe section to budget extremely little mind and physical power to take the following explanatory photo:
They show up as dark lines as lane sides.
So, I get the jiggle, too, in the lane markings.
Another thing: the lane barely changes shape even though the road changes shape a lot.
Edit: Being pushed around by rain puddles made me wonder if the car has motion and sound sensors, like us humans do, for experiencing the puddles pushing us sideways and sliding in curves.
I had a quiet safe section to budget extremely little mind and physical power to take the following explanatory photo:
They show up as dark lines as lane sides.
So, I get the jiggle, too, in the lane markings.
Another thing: the lane barely changes shape even though the road changes shape a lot.
Edit: Being pushed around by rain puddles made me wonder if the car has motion and sound sensors, like us humans do, for experiencing the puddles pushing us sideways and sliding in curves.
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A question while my update is downloading:
People seem to be saying that auto steering works only on "freeways", but I thought the rule was only on roads with dividers. Here on the East Coast we don't have anything called a "freeway", though the Cal-centric folks at Tesla (and Apple and Google and ...) think we do. We have "Interstates" or "Highways" and we also have many divided roads that are neither. So what exactly is the rule?
PS: One reason we don't call them freeways is that many are not free. EZ-Pass has ended the hassle of toll booths, allowing the government to remove money from our wallets silently and frictionlessly.
People seem to be saying that auto steering works only on "freeways", but I thought the rule was only on roads with dividers. Here on the East Coast we don't have anything called a "freeway", though the Cal-centric folks at Tesla (and Apple and Google and ...) think we do. We have "Interstates" or "Highways" and we also have many divided roads that are neither. So what exactly is the rule?
PS: One reason we don't call them freeways is that many are not free. EZ-Pass has ended the hassle of toll booths, allowing the government to remove money from our wallets silently and frictionlessly.
NerdUno
Member
"No new taxes" to Southern politicians means you now have to call these financial contributions, or fees, or tolls, or special assessments. As for HW2, in the Charleston area, our morning drive suggests that AutoSteer only works on interstate highways with limited access. Doesn't work on divided highways regardless of number of lanes or speed limits. Doesn't work on 3-mile-long, 6-lane, 55MPH Ravenel Bridge even though the only way off would be to drive into the river.
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My impression with limited initial use is that in this initial release Auto Steering only works on Interstates and only works at speeds at or below 45 MPH.
TACC works everywhere at any set speed up to 75 MPH.
Mine installed and is working as advertised.
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Updated me X this morning, but no autopilot at all, it keeps telling no auto steer at this road, and I tried all type of roads.
The only thing that changed is that my cruise control is adaptive since this update.
Disappointing!!
The only thing that changed is that my cruise control is adaptive since this update.
Disappointing!!
wesley888
Member
I'm using Unifi as well. Did you notice the download only show up in Statistics and not in History? These are mine:
OBX John
Autonomous Driving Enthusiast
I believe Elon stated a few cars would have to get the camera angles changed at a service center.
TACC is working for me, can't wait to find a road Autosteer works on. A month late, but I'm happy!
Got the update at 5:02am in NY. I'm using UniFi too and it did show up in History. Note that I checked after I came back from a test ride so maybe ending the session created the History entry in the log.
The beta features were available out of the gate with no calibration messages.
Autosteer only worked on the interstate (I684). I could only use it for half a minute before I had to accelerate due to traffic behind me. TACC was not easy to test in that setting as the minimum flow in all lanes was in excess of 75.
