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Autopilot getting worse
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SheriffMoose
Member
Has anyone noticed any difference with how the car handles stop and go traffic? When I test drove an M3 previously (I don't recall which software version it was running for sure, I want to say it was 2019.36.x.x), it seemed to stop and start more smoothly than mine currently does. Mine seems to wait pretty late to brake, and then also take longer than I'd expect to start moving again once traffic starts moving as well, almost to the point I'm concerned someone is going to beep at me for thinking that I'm not paying attention.
It has been the history of the AP that as new capability is added, it gets jittery for a while and then subsequent updates smooth it out. I've seen several cycles of this. The phantom braking is there because of the drivers who keep running into police cars and fire engines and the attempt to prevent that. The radar TACC is causing that as the video AI is not able to do it yet.
Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
Teedub21
Member
I do recall seeing that. I just don’t understand why. If I’m being passed in another lane I don’t need to move over in my lane.
SheriffMoose
Member
Ah, gotcha. I'm new, so still learning the way of things
I'll continue to monitor it, and try to use AP when I can to keep an eye on it!I did notice this today as well. When I rolled up into the parking lot at work it started complaining the front camera was blocked. It looks like it the windshield might have started fogging up again by the time I got to work. Is the defrost for the front radar/camera controlled by the rear defrost or the front defrost?
smatthew
Active Member
I feel the same way, but I guess most drivers feel more comfortable not being so close to such a large vehicle.
smatthew
Active Member
Ah, gotcha. I'm new, so still learning the way of things
I did notice this today as well. When I rolled up into the parking lot at work it started complaining the front camera was blocked. It looks like it the windshield might have started fogging up again by the time I got to work. Is the defrost for the front radar/camera controlled by the rear defrost or the front defrost?
AHA. The camera defrost is controlled by the car. Usually successfully. 2 days ago, the defrost on my front camera stopped working. Phone support couldn't find anything wrong, but a vehicle shutdown/restart (go to the service menu I think) appeared to fix the problem.
I've noticed that too. It might be a feature–giving room to wider vehicles? It does consistently happen with larger vehicles passing, so I think it's a feature. Odd it wasn't in the patch notes, though.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
The car will deliberately move over a little and hug on side of the lane to avoid being too close to large vehicles. It is a feature not a bug. People used to complain that AP would stay dead center in the lane which would sometimes put the car too close for comfort when a large semi truck was in the adjacent lane right next to you. So now the car moves over to give the large vehicle more space.
Not all changes are listed in the notes. They do usually mention bug fixes and other minor items. The highway lane wandering comes and goes with updates. Read the threads about the updates and be alert. Never do updates away from home or if you have to use the car right away. In rare instances the updates fail and the car is inop for awhile.
smatthew
Active Member
Yeah. It was like the curve-speed-limiter went from overly cautious, to not cautious enough. I bet within a version or two the curve-speed-limiter will work perfectly in almost all situations. But this version puts me into oncoming traffic lanes twice during my commute if I don't slow it down (or over-ride steering).
Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
I don't believe we control the camera defrost, it's automated. My windshield is perfectly clean without any fogging but the sun beaming down on the car obstructs the front camera frequently.Ah, gotcha. I'm new, so still learning the way of things
I did notice this today as well. When I rolled up into the parking lot at work it started complaining the front camera was blocked. It looks like it the windshield might have started fogging up again by the time I got to work. Is the defrost for the front radar/camera controlled by the rear defrost or the front defrost?
clydeiii
Member
I too have noticed this, but attributed it to a dirty windshield. I don't know if it's 40.x or the recent weather. But that is the only thing I've noticed since being on 40.x. No ping-ponging here.
Enginerd
Member
I've confirmed that it also moves away from a stationary vehicle on the shoulder (not intruding into lane). Really cool.
Regarding the red hands in direct sunlight, I washed my car last night, and this happened to me this morning when I was driving directly into a very low sun. I was having trouble blocking the sun out of my eyes, and then AP decided it couldn't see well enough either. I was hoping it would be a little more robust than me... oh, well, maybe it will get there over time.
Doesn't really matter the size of vehicle.
Not only does moving right give both vehicles more space, it's a helpful signal of passivity, that reassures the overtaker that you're not about to accelerate and prevent the pass. It's a nudge that can also help encourage a reluctant tailgater on a 2-lane highway.
But, out of curiosity, does anybody with the update have any experience in a snowy area? If there's light snow and bare tire tracks, it shouldn't move over.
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