Autopilot lane keeping still not available over 6 months after delivery

[Ingineer]

A 2 second blurb about Tesla's upcoming "autopilot" feature and that was it!? Boy, I wonder if Google & Mercedes paid to have their cars featured?

Probably more like Tesla wouldn't even talk to them; "No comment."

 

[johnbro23]

A 2 second blurb about Tesla's upcoming "autopilot" feature and that was it!? Boy, I wonder if Google & Mercedes paid to have their cars featured?

MobileEye is the company to beat in autonomous driving. They license their tech to automakers representing 60% of industry units. Toyota is the notable holdout. Mercedes is one of the only automakers working on their own solution from the ground up. Google is taking a completely different approach so might enable them to leapfrog the others. Tesla really isn't the innovator in the space - they work more closely with MobileEye than any other automaker, so that's what enables them to get things first.. But Tesla's Lane keep feature will be available in other high end cars over the next 12 months or so. Would be interested in confirming that if anyone has more info

 

[electracity]

MobileEye is the company to beat in autonomous driving. They license their tech to automakers representing 60% of industry units. Toyota is the notable holdout. Mercedes is one of the only automakers working on their own solution from the ground up. Google is taking a completely different approach so might enable them to leapfrog the others. Tesla really isn't the innovator in the space - they work more closely with MobileEye than any other automaker, so that's what enables them to get things first.. But Tesla's Lane keep feature will be available in other high end cars over the next 12 months or so. Would be interested in confirming that if anyone has more info

I think what is happening is that Tesla and other are using Mobileye to varying degrees. Mobileye probably provides the sensors and imaging firmware. It is unclear how much of the application programing, if any, Mobileye provides to tesla.

Tesla is willing to risk delivering more functionality to the end user. Tesla will probably take the autonomous driving lead in the few months, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the furthest along in development. Traditional auto makers are going to go as slow as possible, of course.

The upside for Tesla is gaining experience with civilians using this advanced technology. Hopefully accidents won't be too frequent. The thread of the guying rear ending stopped traffic (in Turkey?) while using adaptive cruise controls is perhaps an indicator of the near future.

 

[vitaliy]

Do this look like current firmware or v7?

 

[MileHighMotoring]

That's V7

 

[MsElectric]

Those hidden defrost vents are the most wonderful thing about my Model S Signature vehicle. The screen material hardly reflects onto the windshield. Every time I drive a loaner Model S, I see those air vents reflected in the glass. They are GONE with that screen material that was designed to hide them. With the new panoramic Big Sky windshield, I hope the screen material is on my Model X Signature!

Try a quality pair of polarized sunglasses. Completely eliminates glare and reflections on the windshield. I can't drive without them.

 

[Mark Z]

Try a quality pair of polarized sunglasses. Completely eliminates glare and reflections on the windshield. I can't drive without them.

Does it eliminate the reflection of the defroster vents in the Model S windshield on a bright sunny day? That is the only concern since they do not occur with the original Model S Signature.

 

[JohnSnowNW]

Do this look like current firmware or v7?

If this is what people are complaining about, I don't really understand. It looks great, and functional. Gimmie!

 

[stevej119]

Does it eliminate the reflection of the defroster vents in the Model S windshield on a bright sunny day? That is the only concern since they do not occur with the original Model S Signature.

Yes, polarized sunglasses eliminate the reflection of the defroster vents in the Models windshield on a bright sunny day.

 

[Cyclone]

Do this look like current firmware or v7?
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That's V7

If this is what people are complaining about, I don't really understand. It looks great, and functional. Gimmie!

Neither actually. That is the demo of v7 from 2014 when they announced Autopilot. It is not the v7 that is on the X not what has been accidentally pushed to some non-beta/non-EAP users. I think the original demo is still very different than v6, but some would probably not be as vehemently against v7 if this is what actually gets released.

 

[Stoneymonster]

Neither actually. That is the demo of v7 from 2014 when they announced Autopilot. It is not the v7 that is on the X not what has been accidentally pushed to some non-beta/non-EAP users. I think the original demo is still very different than v6, but some would probably not be as vehemently against v7 if this is what actually gets released.

Disagree, the main complaints seem to be the flatter design and the lack of tempurature/digital clock on the dash. This has all of those factors too. None of this should have been a surprise.

 

[Cyclone]

Disagree, the main complaints seem to be the flatter design and the lack of tempurature/digital clock on the dash. This has all of those factors too. None of this should have been a surprise.

Wow. Somehow I missed both of those. Yeah, this would still ruffle many feathers. Hopefully this style planned to have the v6 power meter, which is what would let me accept this one. Guess I just figured out what's the most important feature to me!

 

[Ingineer]

Yes, polarized sunglasses eliminate the reflection of the defroster vents in the Models windshield on a bright sunny day.

Acknowledged OT, but this is a "dead-horse" thread, so I'll take the time to second that polarized sunglasses are excellent when driving. (or flying!)

 

[gizmoboy]

Neither actually. That is the demo of v7 from 2014 when they announced Autopilot. It is not the v7 that is on the X not what has been accidentally pushed to some non-beta/non-EAP users. I think the original demo is still very different than v6, but some would probably not be as vehemently against v7 if this is what actually gets released.

I don't see the huge differences some apparently do in the demo vs the leaked betas...

 

[donv]

Maybe auto-steer has been ready for a while, and the release has been held up while they decide how to improve the v7 UI?

 

[Stoneymonster]

Maybe auto-steer has been ready for a while, and the release has been held up while they decide how to improve the v7 UI?

Talk about inverted priorities... No PM on the planet is going to hold up an already very late release for cosmetic issues.

 

[donv]

To read the comments in the other thread, it's more than "cosmetic issues." Personally, I don't care, but I do think it's amusing if that's the case.

Talk about inverted priorities... No PM on the planet is going to hold up an already very late release for cosmetic issues.

 

[brianman]

I'm not a huge proponent of cruise control, either, but there's a big difference between this and cruise control. People WILL use this for texting and checking Facebook, which isn't really something you can do with cruise control.

I'd prefer they use "this" (the current interpretation of the Tesla deliverable based on the article about the beta) when texting than nothing.

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So, when the time comes that the lane keeping software alerts are not being responded to, and the Model S is going to slow down, turn on the hazards, and attempt to get to the side of the road and stop, why not accelerate before making each lane change?

Best argument I've heard for getting the Performance variants of the Model S: it's safer when autopilot needs to take evasive action. I wonder if my insurance company would buy that.

 

[MileHighMotoring]

Best argument I've heard for getting the Performance variants of the Model S: it's safer when autopilot needs to take evasive action.

In this respect, I think the non-P models excel too. On a road trip my wife and I kept commenting on how the instant acceleration, even at highway speeds, was a safety feature. It doesn't hurt when passing on a 2-lane highway either!

 

[Stoneymonster]

To read the comments in the other thread, it's more than "cosmetic issues." Personally, I don't care, but I do think it's amusing if that's the case.

Cosmetic in this sense means design or visual appearance, not affecting the overall functions of the car. It is not a judgment about whether or not they are important to fix, at some point.