Autopilot Options

[SureValla]

I had no idea the autopilot system was a limited as it was until reading about the collision. This really opened my eyes. I just changed my model3tracker.info to remove AP as an option I will be purchasing with my M3

 

[roblab]

Amazing, all the comments from non owning non using Tesla AP drivers! Typical. One accident, one quick read, maybe not even to the end of the article, and you know it all.

Just for interest, it was confirmed the Tesla owner was watching a DVD player. You folk might read more.

Also, just for interest, I use autopilot (more correctly, Pilot Assist), and its limitations are well known. We that use it know it's beta, and use it because it is safer than a human driver. That has been proven. You that now claim you are cancelling your order for PA are either showing your lack of knowledge or lack of money, I guess. PA is a useful tool, and, as with any tool, it can be used incorrectly to cause damage. It's not the tool's fault. I choose to use it. It's worth the money. Best. Car. Ever.

 

[JeffK]

I had no idea the autopilot system was a limited as it was until reading about the collision. This really opened my eyes. I just changed my model3tracker.info to remove AP as an option I will be purchasing with my M3

Are you kidding? The benefits far outweigh the risks when used properly and when you remain alert.

 

[KZKZ]

Anyone know if Auto Emergency Braking will be standard?

At the launch event they said it was supposed to be standard, now it sounds like it might be optional?

 

[JeffK]

Anyone know if Auto Emergency Braking will be standard?
At the launch event they said it was supposed to be standard, now it sounds like it might be optional?

AEB will be standard and hopefully it'll work if we need it.

 

[SR22pilot]

I agree with you. While JeffK may be right that we need more research into making roads last longer, the issue is independent of needing to collect tax from EV's.

I would prefer a system that does this electronically based on GPS tracking and regular reporting to the areas we drive. Localities can still set their own "road use cost per mile," but let's unify this rather than have every county/state/city/whatever try to make their own hodge-podge system, which is going to complicate the software EV manufacturers have to design.

No!!!!! The last thing I want is the government tracking every where I go. Here we have vehicle emission inspections. Just have them record the mileage. If you have an electric you get the mileage recorded for a $5 fee. No tracking. Otherwise I agree. Get rid of the gas tax and change to a mileage tax.

 

[Topher]

I agree with you. While JeffK may be right that we need more research into making roads last longer, the issue is independent of needing to collect tax from EV's.

Not worth the effort until they start making EV trucks. Large trucks do the damage of 1,000 cars. Cars are paying way more than their fair share.

Thank you kindly.

 

[grashelm]

The Associated Press is reporting that he was watching a Harry Potter movie, and it was still playing when police arrived on-scene. It wasn't clear from the article if he had hacked it to play on the screen, or if he had a laptop or something else he was watching it on.

Either way, sad, and entirely avoidable. AutoPilot is not Level 4 autonomy, as the multitude of warnings will tell you.

I dunno...i can't square the notion of a 40 year old ex navy seal watching a Harry Potter movie.

 

[SureValla]

Are you kidding? The benefits far outweigh the risks when used properly and when you remain alert.

I am not kidding. I don't trust myself or anyone else who may be driving my car to remain alert at all times, the temptation would be too high to send a text or start sightseeing. In which case I don't see the point of having a car that drives itself.

 

[S'toon]

I dunno...i can't square the notion of a 40 year old ex navy seal watching a Harry Potter movie.

You do realize that there are books with magic in them that are older than the '90s, don't you? Think The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings for fantasy novels.

 

[JeffK]

I am not kidding. I don't trust myself or anyone else who may be driving my car to remain alert at all times, the temptation would be too high to send a text or start sightseeing. In which case I don't see the point of having a car that drives itself.

See as an average driver and tech addict I text or sightsee anyway without autopilot (It's dumb I know). Autopilot would benefit someone like me who is probably going to spend 4-5 seconds reading an emergency text message regardless if I have autopilot or not. Ignoring the road is dangerous as it is, but having a safety net is better than not at all. How people use and abuse it is another story.

People are always going to do dumb things. I remember years ago there was a news story about a person climbing into the back seat with normal cruise control thinking the car would drive itself due to the name of the feature.

Remember the NHTSA stat, 94% of all accidents are due to human error. If used properly autopilot can save lives.

 

[EVNow]

I am not kidding. I don't trust myself or anyone else who may be driving my car to remain alert at all times, the temptation would be too high to send a text or start sightseeing. In which case I don't see the point of having a car that drives itself.

I'm conflicted about this as well. I don't even use cruise control - not because I think I'll start sending texts - but just uneasy to let go of the control - but be ready to take control immediately when needed. This is like teaching kids to bike - more difficult than riding the bike yourself

 

[alseTrick]

Anyone know if Auto Emergency Braking will be standard?

At the launch event they said it was supposed to be standard, now it sounds like it might be optional?

It's a mandatory feature - per the Feds - by 2022 apparently. I would hope Tesla - who prides itself on safety - makes them standard on a vehicle that won't actually see widespread production until 2018 at the earliest.

 

[alseTrick]

The associated press are quoting the truck driver not the police. The truck driver claimed the tesla driver was watching a harry potter movie and then later said that he never saw it but maybe thought he heard it.

There was also a different witness who claimed they heard it. There were two witnesses who said they did not, from what I recall reading.

 

[alseTrick]

The Associated Press is reporting that he was watching a Harry Potter movie, and it was still playing when police arrived on-scene. It wasn't clear from the article if he had hacked it to play on the screen, or if he had a laptop or something else he was watching it on.

Either way, sad, and entirely avoidable. AutoPilot is not Level 4 autonomy, as the multitude of warnings will tell you.

Been widely reported they found a DVD player in the car.

 

[Tiberius]

I had no idea the autopilot system was a limited as it was until reading about the collision. This really opened my eyes. I just changed my model3tracker.info to remove AP as an option I will be purchasing with my M3

You actually use that site? They resell your contact information, not to mention all their info/stats are completely made up.

As for AP, if you don't trust yourself to use a function properly then you probably shouldn't be driving at all.

 

[melindav]

I hope so. I think the S will get AP2.0 long before the M3 comes out.

I'm sure AP2.0 will get stereo cameras and a better forward looking radar system. The current system doesn't look that far ahead, or have as wide of view as other vehicle's radar systems. Stereo cameras would help with AP seeing stationary objects and pedestrians.

A rear looking radar would be nice too, but that may not make the M3 due to costs. We'll see.
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Tesla's AP2.0 may be out before the Model ☰, but mobileye was quoted (in regards to the FL wreck) that their next version that would include more than the AEB rear end collision avoidance (IE cross traffic avoidance) would rollout out in 2018.

 

[JeffK]

Tesla's AP2.0 may be out before the Model ☰, but mobileye was quoted (in regards to the FL wreck) that their next version that would include more than the AEB rear end collision avoidance (IE cross traffic avoidance) would rollout out in 2018.

AP 2.0 is likely to have the trifocal cameras, pedestrian detection, etc and will be good for city driving as well as highway driving.

 

[Lem89]

Amazing, all the comments from non owning non using Tesla AP drivers! Typical. One accident, one quick read, maybe not even to the end of the article, and you know it all.

Just for interest, it was confirmed the Tesla owner was watching a DVD player. You folk might read more.

Also, just for interest, I use autopilot (more correctly, Pilot Assist), and its limitations are well known. We that use it know it's beta, and use it because it is safer than a human driver. That has been proven. You that now claim you are cancelling your order for PA are either showing your lack of knowledge or lack of money, I guess. PA is a useful tool, and, as with any tool, it can be used incorrectly to cause damage. It's not the tool's fault. I choose to use it. It's worth the money. Best. Car. Ever.

Yes, Autopilot could use a new name until it is fully autonomous. I like Co-Pilot. It's a much more accurate term and tells the driver they are still responsible for piloting the car when the feature is turned on.

 

[SR22pilot]

Yes, Autopilot could use a new name until it is fully autonomous. I like Co-Pilot. It's a much more accurate term and tells the driver they are still responsible for piloting the car when the feature is turned on.

In terns of aviation the name is very appropriate. My AP follows a course. Unfortunately, my plane's AP won't slow it down if traffic in front of me slows down. Still, I think Advanced Driver Assist would have been better at conveying to most people what it is.