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Autopilot Still Not Better

Resist

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Mar 24, 2019
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Recently got 2022.44.30.5 (FSD beta 10.69.25.1), and took a 4 hour trip. I used NOA and had the lane changes to prompt me for confirmation, so it wouldn't automatically change lanes on its own. Well, just as with the previous firmwares there some areas on the highway where the blinkers came on and my car tried to change lanes. That shouldn't have happened and makes no sense, and since Tesla took away the reporting icon I can't even tell them about it. Then on the drive back in the dark I had numerous door pillar not working notifications. Also had door pillar blocked or blinded during the day drive. Oh and if the temperature is cold at night, using the blinkers I couldn't see squat to the side of my car with the video because it was so glared due to the light bleed inside the repeater camera. To me, the whole system seems to be getting worst, not better as many YouTubers want to boast about. I never had this many issues at least 5 firmwares ago. At this point I feel FSD is a pipe dream and if I ever buy another Tesla again, I certainly won't pay for FSD. At $15,000 FSD is a joke. I paid $2,000 for FSD after paying $5,000 for Enhanced Autopilot back in early 2019 and even at that price it as shown not to be worth it. I should have just kept EAP.
 
Recently got 2022.44.30.5 (FSD beta 10.69.25.1), and took a 4 hour trip. I used NOA and had the lane changes to prompt me for confirmation, so it wouldn't automatically change lanes on its own. Well, just as with the previous firmwares there some areas on the highway where the blinkers came on and my car tried to change lanes. That shouldn't have happened and makes no sense, and since Tesla took away the reporting icon I can't even tell them about it. Then on the drive back in the dark I had numerous door pillar not working notifications. Also had door pillar blocked or blinded during the day drive. Oh and if the temperature is cold at night, using the blinkers I couldn't see squat to the side of my car with the video because it was so glared due to the light bleed inside the repeater camera. To me, the whole system seems to be getting worst, not better as many YouTubers want to boast about. I never had this many issues at least 5 firmwares ago. At this point I feel FSD is a pipe dream and if I ever buy another Tesla again, I certainly won't pay for FSD. At $15,000 FSD is a joke. I paid $2,000 for FSD after paying $5,000 for Enhanced Autopilot back in early 2019 and even at that price it as shown not to be worth it. I should have just kept EAP.
You can save yourself some headaches on the freeway by disabling NoA speed based lane changes. It will only change lanes to follow the route, which you can also set for confirmation as you already have. If you find a lane is running slower than another lane, just initiate the lane change with your turn signals, and the car will move and stay in that lane until it needs to change for an interchange or exit.

The B-Pillar blinded during the day is common in places where the temperature outside is close to or below the dew point. In SoCal, when the temperature is in the 50's or low 60's, the B-Pillar will fog up when in direct sunlight. It will remain fogged up until IR heat from the sun warms the enclosure enough to defog it. The good news is that the enclosure is backed with black material which helps absorb the IR energy and heat more quickly, but it can still take several minutes of direct sunlight to defog. The cameras are supposedly vented to the interior, but the insulation behind the interior pillar, which sits behind the seatbelt mechanism, doesn't seem to allow enough warm air in the cabin to reach the enclosure. This is being mitigated in an upcoming camera enclosure which will have heating elements built in.

Nighttime driving in dark locations, with no street lamps, traffic, or strong moon light tends to blind some of the cameras. There doesn't seem to be a solution to this aside from using high-beams to illuminate a broad area in the front of the car. But that doesn't always cover the repeater cameras properly. In those situations, the best bet is to drive manually.

The light bleed on the repeater cameras is a known issue and has been mitigated with recent cameras. Some people had condensation issues with the repeaters and had them replaced by service, and found the new cameras do not suffer from light bleed.
 
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Resist

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I know I can disable NOA but I shouldn't have to, besides as I said I has it set to ask me to change lanes so it's not supposed to automatically change lanes, yet a couple times it did it. This is clearly a bug.

And I have no doubt my B-Pillar cameras got condensation but this only seems to happen when the temps reach the high 30's at night, which is was. How Tesla didn't think this might be an issue down the road, makes me think they aren't as smart as Elon claims they are. And if the Autopilot system can't work in dark locations then FSD will never be a reality.

And yes, I know about the repeater light bleed issue and have for a long time. But I shouldn't have to pay to get the newer camera's and several Tesla Service Centers have already told me they won't cover the replacement.

Now it's sounding like HW4 won't be part of my 2018 LR Model 3, so the free hardware upgrades Tesla and Elon said we'd get when purchasing FSD won't happen anymore. So Elon lied to us from day one and I am seriously about done with Tesla!
 

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