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@Electricfan
Thought experiment. Suppose you have this exchange with your neighbor:
What would you say next?
I was reading my book, the car was driving on autopilot.
@Electricfan
Thought experiment. Suppose you have this exchange with your neighbor:
What would you say next?
could he be a troll?
No, I was asking what you'd say next to the neighbor.I re-read that several times. I think you're asking what would the neighbor say next? The first line is me, bragging about my car. The second line is the neighbor, asking about stoplights. The third line is me answering that yes there are stoplights and the car doesn't see them. So you're asking for the fourth line - what would the neighbor say - is that right?
@Electricfan
Thought experiment. Suppose you have this exchange with your neighbor:
Neighbor said:I love my new car. It has adaptive cruise control. I use it on my commute home every day. I don't even touch the brake or accelerator the whole way.You said:How many stoplights is that? Does the adaptive cruise control see and react to the stoplights?Neighbor said:It's like 7 stoplights, I take the ___ route. No, it doesn't see stoplights.
What would you say next?
brianman said:So you're leaving your car on cruise control running red lights on your way home? Don't you consider that dangerous?
Could somebody tell me what a troll is?
I agree, I mean who is going to buy the car for autopilot if they have to "keep both hands on the wheel and be ready to take over at any moment"? NOBODY. I didn't! If I had seen this disclaimer before buying I would have kept my 2013! Now that I have it, I'm going to use it as I intended. I lost more than $30k trading my 2013 for a 2015 for autopilot. No way I'm driving down the road with both hands on the wheel in autopilot mode. I mean, what the hell would even be the point of having autopilot on if you drove that way?
Why doesn't it, though? It should at least see a tire laying on the road in front of you. It can't be that hard to recognize. In my opinion they shouldn't have released it like it is. I hope in future versions it does these exact things you mention and at least beeps and tells you to take over, if it can't drive itself appropriately. I'm amazed no serious accidents have happened with it yet. Maybe I'll be the first. But they sold me a car that steers itself, and as far as I'm concerned that means it has the responsibility not to kill me.
You might "find out" by killing yourself or someone else. Or possibly by becoming an amputee or a paraplegic.Ecarfan said:Tesla itself has emphasized this is beta software - a clear indication they don't think its good enough yet either. I'm hoping for a massive improvement in the software over the next year. In the meantime I'm using it as I want - its my car, my decision. I don't use it on back roads, or even 290 or other roads in Houston that aren't wide lanes and well marked. The beltway is the perfect place for it. So far its doing pretty well on the beltway. I wouldn't use it the way I am if I thought I was going to die, or kill someone else. Don't have a death wish at all. But I bought a car that Tesla said would steer itself, and I'm going to let it do that.
The Model S will control the brakes, acceleration, and steering, so the driver doesn't have to. Call that whatever you want. To me, its the same thing no matter what name you put on it. In court, if Tesla tries to argue "our car was in control of brakes, acceleration and steering at the time of the accident, but we're not responsible", well no judge or jury will buy it. But maybe I'm wrong. I think we're going to find out sooner or later.
+1, good post. I really think some here overreact to anything even slightly different from their mindset.
I personally wouldn't read a book while AP is on but I also personally wouldn't write some of the over the top responses to you doing so.
Some of the comments got real personal though, and that's disappointing.