Backup Camera and White Guide Lines

[ricebucket]

My backup lines sometimes "jump" when I shift into reverse. It's a bit hard to describe the effect. When I shift to R, I see the camera image and the lines on the screen, but then after a second or two, the lines jump and seems to recalibrate themselves. The resulting lines/image is then more accurate.

Do you see this behavior too?

(I took a look at NewTMSMan's video. But he doesn't show the screen right after shifting to R, so I'm not sure if there is the "jump" as I described.)

 

[boaterva]

Of course, then you get, are all parking spots (distance between the lines) identical everywhere? In all states?

I tested this at the local mall, and my X seems to have the lines about on the outer edge of the tires. Not enough to protect the entire car, but better than the 'track' (middle of the tires?)... I'd say you need to use the camera and the mirrors to see how close you are to objects to the side!

 

[NewTMSMan]

Yeah, but if I center the lines in the spot (see video) the car is offset in the spot towards the driver's side. Doesn't matter how wide the spot is.

I do not see the lines jump or change at any point when using the backup camera.

 

[ricebucket]

Yeah, but if I center the lines in the spot (see video) the car is offset in the spot towards the driver's side. Doesn't matter how wide the spot is.

I do not see the lines jump or change at any point when using the backup camera.

That's odd... my lines jump all the time. I used to think this is normal, not I'm not so sure. Does this occur for others?

 

[selfbp]

This has been bugging me for a while with my S. Here's how bad it is:

Now that is probably the best result. When I am slightly off center toward the driver's side I am often parked over the lines on that side of the car and need to get back in and move it.

Okay yeah that needs to be fixed. Thats a decent problem...

 

[David3]

This has been bugging me for a while with my S. Here's how bad it is:

Now that is probably the best result. When I am slightly off center toward the driver's side I am often parked over the lines on that side of the car and need to get back in and move it.

Any luck with getting this fixed? My model 3 has the same issue.

 

[NewTMSMan]

Nope, was told the checked it and it’s within spec. I don’t notice it as much in our Model 3 or X as I do in our S.

 

[Skystreaker]

My experiment this weekend. I knew something was up. I used to park my old SUV with laser precision with the cameras. With this car, I always wind up tilted. So i've basically started to not use the lines so much.

For folks seeing this issue, what has been the response from the service center?

 

[tstafford]

Mine ends up tilted too. Just one of the many quirks of Tesla that makes it "special".

 

[A-Wimoweh]

Count me in too... 2018 S75D built in June 2018. I was like why do I always end up slightly crooked, when I use the lines?

 

[Russell]

You guys are forgetting since the camera is not centered with the car the camera lines won't be either.
The fisheye effect will be stronger on the left side which will also distort the image a bit.

 

[Skystreaker]

I found a hack. But will still bring it into service (again) to discuss. Basically, you unscrew one of those bolts, and turn the camera. Because it's a wide angle lens, you got to tilt it a bunch. Notice one of the bots no longer fit (if you screw in both, you inevitably go back to the old situation).

One implication of doing this is the white guide lines now represent the tips of the ear mirrors, not the edge of the wheels (which is fine by me, as long as it's consistent and straight on both sides).

On the fish eye lens, this shouldn't be a factor. Tesla made the white lines curve - this should take care of it. One basic way to test is to try to drive matching the left guide line. You can't. At least not with my Tesla. I spent 10 minutes the other thinking if I drive over a spot with the top of the left white line, and backup straight, that spot will end up on the bottom of the white line. NOPE!

Would folks know if this voids warranty, etc?

 

[P100D_Me]

You guys are forgetting since the camera is not centered with the car the camera lines won't be either.

I had a Chrysler 300 and the reverse camera on that was mounted off centre as well, I could never get that thing lined up in parking spaces if I used just the camera so I reverted to doing things the old way and just used the side mirrors for alignment.
But this is an interesting thread because I have tried to use the reverse camera on the Telsa on occasion and it all looks good as I am backing in and when I get out I am embarrassed at the way I've parked...I thought it was me but apparently not reading through here.

 

[Knightowl]

interesting, my 2014 S backup camera lines work flawlessly, I reverse park in a tight spot using only the camera and have not crashed the car yet

 

[Magellan55]

Silly question but why do all Tesla owners seem to like backing into parking spaces? Am I the only one that pulls in frontwise? It's how I've parked all my previous cars. Is it all due to superchargers?

 

[Russell]

Silly question but why do all Tesla owners seem to like backing into parking spaces? Am I the only one that pulls in frontwise? It's how I've parked all my previous cars. Is it all due to superchargers?

Were all of your previous cars Teslas?
Not just Superchargers but all chargers we have to back in.
Cars backing in can make tighter turns, thus easier to park. And it's safer too.

 

[Knightowl]

Silly question but why do all Tesla owners seem to like backing into parking spaces? Am I the only one that pulls in frontwise? It's how I've parked all my previous cars. Is it all due to superchargers?

Well for me I prefer it because of the camera since I can see exactly where the car is in relation to objects or curb. Not so much with the front of the car, that is left to best guess and I hate having to guess especially if I have loaded the car down and there may be a clearance risk.

 

[MiamiDubai]

Silly question but why do all Tesla owners seem to like backing into parking spaces? Am I the only one that pulls in frontwise? It's how I've parked all my previous cars. Is it all due to superchargers?

Even before my Tesla I backed into parking spots.

Backing into a spot I’m going into a known space with no cars or pedestrians. All I have to do is not hit the car(s) next to me.

Backing out of a parking spot I’m going into a unknown space with ever changing conditions (pedestrians and cross traffic I may not see). On top that I have to worry about hitting the car(s) next to me.

 

[A-Wimoweh]

Silly question but why do all Tesla owners seem to like backing into parking spaces? Am I the only one that pulls in frontwise? It's how I've parked all my previous cars. Is it all due to superchargers?

Think of it this way... When you back in, you are out there in the flow of traffic where other cars can see you, and you can see other cars. Then when you pull out, you have much better sightlines for cross traffic. Also much quicker to leave. And you probably won't hit anything pulling out, cause you can see everything well.

When you pull in, its quick. But you can't see exactly where the front bumper ends. Will the bumper clear the curb? When you back out, you can't see nearly as well, until you get out into the flow of traffic. I suspect reaction time is quicker pulling out versus backing out.

Once you get the hang of it, both take about the same amount of total time to enter and leave the parking spot.

 

[boonedocks]

My experiment this weekend. I knew something was up. I used to park my old SUV with laser precision with the cameras. With this car, I always wind up tilted. So i've basically started to not use the lines so much.

For folks seeing this issue, what has been the response from the service center?

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