Before we publish these, does anyone with an HW2 vehicle have a different opinion?
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hos epi to polu
That is false for all purchases prior to 1/17. Please stop repeating it.
Not trying to rehash all of the other threads and not looking for ANY input from HW1/AP1 owners such as yourself, but thanks.
AEB is a big NO. TACC braking is what you're describing and its separate and apart from AEB. AEB is an active safety feature that comes standard with any Tesla purchased with HW1 or HW2. It was "expected" December 2016.
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hos epi to polu
If you look at the wording in the description for EAP on the Q4 orders, it is very clear that Tesla wrote it up with the expectation that the HW2 cars would ship with the mobile-eye system as well. Elon has recently admitted this. We were supposed to get cars with AP1 benefits right off the delivery truck.Before we publish these, does anyone with an HW2 vehicle have a different opinion?
As soon as they knew they would not/could not put the mobile-eye system in HW2 cars, at the very least these things needed to happen:
1) every buyer should've been notified of the change, the consequences of the change to the cars' abilities, how this alters the order agreement, and the impact on timeline and roll-out structure.
2) the Tesla.com order page should've been changed immediately.
3) sales staff should've been informed of the consequences of this change and instructed explicitly not to make claims that Tesla could not support.
This doesn't even touch on the quality and scope of what has and has not since been rolled out.
Why do we keep hearing this over and over again? Most were promised by December. (Note the wording in what was visable online until they changed it after January when they missed it. Wording on the safety features was (WILL BECOME AVAILABLE IN DECEMBER 2016) after January when they missed all deadlines they now changed it to (Have begun rolling out)
Side collision detection (present with Ultrasonics (no improvement over HW1 currently))
Forward Collision Warning (present) (you have it listed as NO but it does exist for all HW2)
Automatic Lights (present)
EAP also comes with (always was expected after December 2016 parity):
Autosteer+ (handles difficult turns and windy roads)
Smart Summon (able to turn car and do more than forward/back)
Forward Collision Warning (present) (you have it listed as NO but it does exist for all HW2)
Automatic Lights (present)
EAP also comes with (always was expected after December 2016 parity):
Autosteer+ (handles difficult turns and windy roads)
Smart Summon (able to turn car and do more than forward/back)
Automatic Lights (present) - This was not what was listed. What was listed was Auto High Beams which is not available at all.
Its a whack a mole situation. You can keep posting the truth about what Tesla stated but the Tesla fanbois won't accept it. I'm now just focused on making the best of a situation we all shouldn't have been placed in. Tons of owners are now complaining and the few that aren't just like being treated like Trump's moscow shenanigans.
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hos epi to polu
@commasign disagrees with facts. Oh dear. Friend, you don't get to "disagree" with facts. That's not how it works for real grown-ups.
As an HW1/AP1 owner all I can do is laugh at all this constant silliness about promises and deadlines and such. If you're not happy, then go ahead and sue Tesla or write an article for SeekingAlpha.
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hos epi to polu
That's awesome if you want to sit and laugh. But your onanistic humor isn't justification for repeating falsehoods.
And it says a lot about your attitude to discourse. IL. Tschuss.
Ironically, you have no clue when or where to use a comma. We're not talking Oxford commas, just regular ones.
Develop some empathy and I'll teach you how and when to use commas. Deal?
I have a Déjà vu.
Only this is missing:
Only this is missing:
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EAP "is expected to".
Key word for "forward-looking statements" that might or might not happen.
It could be argued that it takes precedence over "Standard Safety Features" wording that have had a semi-precise date due to being tied in one package.
Good news guys! Elon says autonomous driving is "basically a solved problem"....should be able to better the Mobileye system any minute now.
lunitiks
Cool James & Black Teacher
Did you just pull this out of your own behind, or am I missing something? The "mobil-eye system" as well as the Nvidia-system? Elaborationionion please
lunitiks
Cool James & Black Teacher
Yeah but that was just Teslas "original plan", wasn't it? I mean, probably long before the reveal of AP2? The breakup with M.E. was already a public fact before the tesla.com website was updated with AP2 order info
