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Barclays note in Business Insider

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  1. scottm

    scottm Active Member

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    Barclays problems in Tesla 10-K - Business Insider
     
  2. muleferg

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    Buy Low. Sell High
     
  3. SteveG3

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    His first point is a hypothesis that Tesla has moved from strictly built to order to creating some inventory for purchase. There are various alternative hypotheses as to why finished goods inventory increased. Given Tesla has 10,000 unfilled orders for the Model S, I doubt his hypothesis is correct.

    Surprised he did not pick up on something quite bullish in the 10-K- Tesla expects to qualify additional lithium ion battery cell manufacturers this year. Having additional supplier(s) to Panasonic would mean Tesla could enter the stationary storage market on a scale near term I don't believe anyone outside the company thought possible. Tesla is expected to make an announcement about stationary storage product offerings in the next couple of months.
     
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    I know Tesla has some inventory over here. This is because Tesla had a lot of cancellations/reorders when they announced the P85D. I'm sure this is a lot of the answer.
     
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    I was speculating the same on the investor's forum, thanks for the word from the ground.
     
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    Me too. In January the last time I was in a Tesla store, there was a beautiful fully loaded P85+ that was refused on delivery because the buyer wanted to get a P85D instead. I asked how much that set the buyer back. He forfeited the deposit plus 5% of the purchase price. They had several other cars with quite minimal miles of use.

    If you figure a couple of these cases per store, you get hundreds of abandoned deliveries and lightly used vehicles. Autopilot and the D have been quite disruptive. But if buyers are willing to forfeit 5% or so just to get the D, then it just proves how strong the demand is. This sort of disruotion is a very good thing, because that's what it takes to disrupt the whole industry.
     
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    Another component is the 1400 cars that were shipped but not delivered due to weather and vacations, etc. I was at the Watertown (Boston) SC for a 12V battery issue the morning of Jan 3 and the lot was full of new cars. The SC staff confirmed these were cars rushed out at the end of the year but the buyers weren't around to take delivery. That would push up the finished goods inventory a material amount - and then go right back down a week or two later.
     
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    Perhaps I should point out the obvious. This FUD is the result of dredging through the 10-K looking for any shred of an issue that bears might exploit. So what did the FUDmasters yield for all their labor? Three trifflingly small issues. These guys really do not have bigger fish to fry. Apparently top line growth is strong, gross margin impresive, and operating expenses in line with the current growth phase of the company. Growing to over 10,500 employees is quite impressive. The bears got nothing.
     
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    How about this as a triflingly small issue: Tesla to owners: Please don't pimp your rides - Yahoo Finance - I mean this has reached a level or insanity that I've rarely seen.
     
  10. PeterK

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    Really is too much. I posted a comment in response to why it's a risk, and someone else posted re the stupidity of writing an article about it.
     

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