Barebones Ludicrous -or- Fully Optioned Model 3 ?

[ratsbew]

I'd go for options over ultra performance. I'd be totally happy with 5.9 0-60.

 

[FirstSea]

I want performance and range, but I'll take some options; I just hope they don't have packages for the options, I don't want to pay for extras I don't want/need.

 

[Alketi]

I wonder what Tesla's margins are on the $10K ludicrous option? I'm assuming they're huge and I hope they're charging that much because the folks buying a $100K car afford it. Also recall that Tesla offered this upgrade at only $5K for a limited time.

With the M3 in a different price market, I'm slightly optimistic that the M3 ludicrous option might be priced more reasonably -- perhaps $3K to $5K. Personally, if it's $3K I'd buy it in a heartbeat. If it's $10K I'll pass.

 

[melindav]

Hands down I'd rather spend money on the luxury over the excessive spurt of speed.
Here's what 90% of the time I spend driving looks like:

Lot a lot of use for 0-60 in any amount of seconds when traffic doesn't get above 20MPH

 

[Dan Detweiler]

Hands down I'd rather spend money on the luxury over the excessive spurt of speed.

First you're talking about Cougar Clubs...now excessive spurts of speed? People are really going to start talking now!

Dan

 

[Garlan Garner]

As others have said in this forum, the options maybe bundled to keep the costs down for a mass production car. I am in the same boat of having a limited budget and having to want all luxury and performance goodies. I love speed and acceleration but I think I would be very happy with 0-60 of 4.5 which under my pricing would be $49k and no need to go to the performance and ludicrous expense. I still don't know if I would pick the "FAST" or the Luxury package. I can't have both though!

1. Base $35k
2. Premium $39k (nav, power seats, heated seats, LED interior, keyless entry, instrument panel, dimming mirrors)
3. Premium "FAST" $49k (AWD, battery)
4. Premium Luxury $49k (auto pilot, wheels, paint, sunroof, leather, sport seats, LED headlights, hifi)
5. Premium Luxury "FAST" $59k
Plus options:
Air suspension $2k
Performance $15k
Ludicrous $5k
subzero $1k
Total $82k

$82K OMG. Please don't let the Base to premium Luxury be a $24K upgrade. And please don't let the Performance (whatever that is) be A $15k upgrade.

As James Brown would say "Please -Please -Please". Tesla - Are you listening?

 

[Garlan Garner]

I wonder what Tesla's margins are on the $10K ludicrous option? I'm assuming they're huge and I hope they're charging that much because the folks buying a $100K car afford it. Also recall that Tesla offered this upgrade at only $5K for a limited time.

With the M3 in a different price market, I'm slightly optimistic that the M3 ludicrous option might be priced more reasonably -- perhaps $3K to $5K. Personally, if it's $3K I'd buy it in a heartbeat. If it's $10K I'll pass.

Great Points. $3-$5k would be great.

 

[NoTDI]

$82K OMG. Please don't let the Base to premium Luxury be a $24K upgrade. And please don't let the Performance (whatever that is) be A $15k upgrade.

As James Brown would say "Please -Please -Please". Tesla - Are you listening?

For MS the base 70 to P90D is $38k
In my estimates base M3 to P??D is $29k which includes not only the PD package but some luxury features I think would optional on M3 compared to MS. Others have said the $4k I have added for premium would be standard. If that's the case then the PD package would be $25k for a total of $60k which is great value with the tax breaks for a car with sub 4.5 0-60.

 

[NoTDI]

For MS the base 70 to P90D is $38k
In my estimates base M3 to P??D is $29k which includes not only the PD package but some luxury features I think would optional on M3 compared to MS. Others have said the $4k I have added for premium would be standard. If that's the case then the PD package would be $25k for a total of $60k which is great value with the tax breaks for a car with sub 4.5 0-60.

And almost 300 miles range.

 

[Chewy3]

The Tesla Model 3 is supposed to be competing with the BMW 3-series:

Tesla M3 : BMW 328i ?
Tesla M3 Ludicrous : BMW M3 ?

BMW M3 starts at ~$63k.

Just a thought to add to the mix

 

[wallet.dat]

Meh. I think your math is way off. Extrapolating the current offering, I believe Ludicrous will be over $70K. You're short about $20K.

ROFL

 

[Garlan Garner]

If you waited in line like I did, you can count on it

I was second in line. What does that mean for me?

 

[NoTDI]

I was second in line. What does that mean for me?

That means you woke up very early that day! Sorry couldn't resist!
I'm in California and I was 150th in my line. I'm fairly certain I will get the tax breaks. I see you are in Chicago which makes it harder to guess if you will receive the federal tax breaks.

 

[zenmaster]

The Tesla Model 3 is supposed to be competing with the BMW 3-series:

Tesla M3 : BMW 328i ?
Tesla M3 Ludicrous : BMW M3 ?

BMW M3 starts at ~$63k.

Just a thought to add to the mix

It would be interesting to see if Tesla would enter the sports car market with this platform, but I don't see it possibly being able to compete with any M car.

 

[Alketi]

BMW M3: "A legend in the world of performance cars"

$64,495
0-60: 3.8s
HP: 425
MPG: 17/24

I'm quite sure Tesla knows these numbers as well as the psychological value of exceeding them -- both in acceleration and price.

 

[zenmaster]

BMW M3: "A legend in the world of performance cars"

$64,495
0-60: 3.8s
HP: 425
MPG: 17/24

I'm quite sure Tesla knows these numbers as well as the psychological value of exceeding them -- both in acceleration and price.

Of course they do. The question is, is it worth it to them to attempt to compete in that market? I say probably not, because they can make more money elsewhere.

 

[Chewy3]

BMW M3: "A legend in the world of performance cars"

$64,495
0-60: 3.8s
HP: 425
MPG: 17/24

I'm quite sure Tesla knows these numbers as well as the psychological value of exceeding them -- both in acceleration and price.

The 0-60 for the base BMW M3 is a tad slower @ 4.1sec
The base model comes with non metallic paint and a mostly cloth interior
Adaptive cruise control and backup camera are NOT standard on the M3

However, BMW's skid pad rating is much better than the Tesla Model S @~.89g vs the BMW m3 @ ~.98g (Depending which review stats you check)

I'm fairly certain a PXXDL Model 3 will be less than $60k, otherwise it begins looses its economic advantage against BMW

 

[NoTDI]

The 0-60 for the base BMW M3 is a tad slower @ 4.1sec
The base model comes with non metallic paint and a mostly cloth interior
Adaptive cruise control and backup camera are NOT standard on the M3

However, BMW's skid pad rating is much better than the Tesla Model S @~.89g vs the BMW m3 @ ~.98g (Depending which review stats you check)

I'm fairly certain a PXXDL Model 3 will be less than $60k, otherwise it begins looses its economic advantage against BMW

P??DL will be more like $70k
BMW always underestimates their 0-60 and power ratings.
The most important advantage of TM3 is electric vs. ICE-priceless!

 

[Alketi]

Of course they do. The question is, is it worth it to them to attempt to compete in that market? I say probably not, because they can make more money elsewhere.

What does it cost to compete in the event that the performance/cost specs just fall out of the M3 design and Gigafactory price reductions?

 

[Chewy3]

P??DL will be more like $70k

with out any other options - the price difference between a base S and a P90DL is around $39k right? (Just tried to checked the site but the pricing sidebar is absent)

You really think Tesla will charge the same amount for the performance and battery options as the S on the 3? $35k+?

Options + performance might hit the $70k mark, but I doubt it. Hopefully that's the ceiling.

I would like to get the performance and a few options, but for the sake of this thread Max Performance vs Max options - I'd choose the options.