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  1. tomas

    tomas Only partially psycho

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    Way back when... in 2013... peak supercharging rate was increased from 90kW to 120kW. Some owners noticed that their cars immediately had increased charging rate, and others noticed that theirs stayed at 90kW. Tesla offered no answers. We, the early owners, started doing some data collection to try to figure out this anomaly. To make a long story short, we determined that, around December 2012, Tesla began shipping some cars with 120kW capable batteries. Other earlier cars did not have this capability. By end of spring of 2013, all cars were shipping with the new, higher charge rate batteries. We used correspondence on this forum and this table to determine which part numbers were affected. There were also worries (unsubstantiated) that the 90kW limited batteries may have other issues, such as degradation. Speaking as an owner of a 2012 P85 with the early 90kW limited battery, I can testify that my battery capacity is stellar. It has remained within 5% of what it was when I took delivery.

    Nonetheless, at the time, the owners with charge rate limited batteries were aggravated, and petitioned Tesla to do something about it. They acknowledged the issue, but argued that the overall impact on supercharging time was negligible. They gave us a commitment that they would institute a "fair" upgrade program for all owners when battery production constraints eased. That has not yet happened. Hopefully when the gigafactory is online, they will give us some accommodation. Unfortunately, the exec who worked with us on this issue has left tesla (Jerome Guillen), so who knows what the corporate memory retained.

    Regardless... there are a few early owners who helped Tesla sell a LOT of cars, and are owed something. Some of us have not forgotten:(
     
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  2. AZ Desert Driver

    AZ Desert Driver Rare combination

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    Thanks for that history...Now, when I get my 60/75 kWh pack next month, do you have any use of its data? or is this now a historical artifact that is no longer applicable (except to you legacy guys with promises unfulfilled)
     
  3. tomas

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    There are a lot of people this forum who like to analyze and investigate. I'm guessing that continued collecting of battery information is interesting to a few, however it seems to me that this table no longer has a meaningful sample. Would require a real blitz to make relevant sample across 5 years of cars.
     
  4. Duma

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    An added issue is that when the software for the TMC site was updated about a year ago, it broke the wiki WYSWYG editor for the table so adding data has become more than tedious - even for those who know HTML - and basically ended this data collection effort.

    Better data is being collected through logging applications like TeslaLog and TeslaFi, albeit this is not being correlated explicitly with specific battery part numbers (just delivery date and configuration - S, X, performance, dual, single, pack size).
     
  5. supratachophobia

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    Has this been seen yet?
    1086755-00-C
     
  6. Texas

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    Here is a possible outlier: my P85D, VIN 5YJSA1H41FF085864, build date 5/15/2015, delivery date 5/28/2016 has the following battery part number: 1076318-00-C. When getting the Ludicrous upgrade, the SC said they had to order different parts than they expected because the battery was a newer model.
     
  7. phaduman

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    If you would like to add more data points to the informative battery table:
    MS75D, built 09/2016. Delivery 10/2016 from Fremont factory. VIN 160XXX. Battery part# 1088794-00-A (75KWH, 350VDC). Miles on car when I picked it up: 9.

    thanks
    PN
     
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  8. cwellsatl

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    I got a New S75 Built 8/2016 Delivered 9/2016 also with a 1088794-00-A (75kWh, 350VDC) had 18 miles on the car when i got it.
     
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  9. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 100D 2019.32.12.2

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    I took delivery last week and have a model number of 1088790-00-A (90 kWh, 400 VDC) on my S 90D. When I search the forums, it seems this battery has been around a while. The other S 90D that we took delivery of in June has a totally different part number: 1056776-00-E (90 kWh, 400 VDC)

    Anybody have an idea as to what the differences might be between these two 90 kWh batteries?
     
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  10. apacheguy

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    I don't see any other reports of a 108xxxx series battery. Seems this one is fairly new.
     
  11. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 100D 2019.32.12.2

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    Hmm. I'm not finding the 'old' posts that I found the other day. Maybe those were just false positive search results and I didn't notice the part number wasn't an exact match. Searching today, I'm seeing the same part number mentioned as far back as June in a Model X but nothing older than that. :)
     
  12. zanary

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    So this is interesting. When the initial P100D's came out, they had the P100D battery with part number 1086755-00-D.

    The new one from the factory are now coming with 1115548-00-D (delivery to customers this past week, don't know the build date).

    Anyone know what is the difference? I'm curious if the P90DL retrofit to P100D will come with this new 111548-00-D or even newer battery considering the delay in announcing the $20K retrofit...
     
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  13. Offgrid

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    Same contactor cover as the 100kwh battery
    That wk057 took apart.
    pack must be a replacement pack i assume any i 20170814_110550.jpg 20170801_131743.jpg 20170827_150355.jpg deas
     
  14. apacheguy

    apacheguy S Sig #255

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    Usually, replacement packs sent to Fremont for repair will have -01- or higher in the part number. -00- means it is a brand new battery.
     
  15. dookie

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    So I just got a battery replacement in my X90DL I went from P/N 1071941-00-C to P/N 1088790-00-A. Which one is better? Did I get a better performing battery or a "new" old one?
     
  16. LuckyLuke

    LuckyLuke Model S P90DL

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    Just to add as data point: Last week my P85DL got upgraded with a brand new 90 battery, part number 1088790-00-A
     
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  17. ckoval7

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    My P85D just got upgraded to a P90D, refurbished battery P/N: 1102980-01-A
     
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  18. supratachophobia

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    Reason?
     
  19. ckoval7

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    Sensor failure inside the pack
     
  20. supratachophobia

    supratachophobia Active Member

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    Ouch. What were the symptoms you were seeing?

    Thanks for the model numbers though.
     
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