I am very surprised this is not at the top of the boards. I thought having unlimited miles on the model S is HUGE, not sure of the X is like this or not.
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Battery Warranty not unlimited miles?
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Thomas Edison
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I put on over 50,000 miles a year which is one of main reason I want a long range ev. I was disappointed to see that they capped the powertrain warranty.
The mileage limits on the battery pack correspond to only ~400-500 full cycles - from that perspective, the mileage limit on the battery warranty for the 3 is rather disappointing.
What's more telling to me is that the motor is only guaranteed for 4 years / 50k miles. Sounds like the million mile motor is still a bit out of grasp.
What's more telling to me is that the motor is only guaranteed for 4 years / 50k miles. Sounds like the million mile motor is still a bit out of grasp.
Given the actual reliability of batteries past the 150k mark, you probably don't have much to worry about. Given your mileage, you're saving a ludicrous amount of money on gas and maintenance even if you run into battery issues out of warranty.
The S unlimited warranty came into effect after people started losing faith in the drivetrain (early drivetrain reliability was atrocious), and the long-term battery health was still something that people were extremely mistrustful of (thanks, Nissan Leaf!). I imagine they did this to help drive business and confidence in the Model S.
Tesla no longer needs to instill such confidence in their products, and thus the warranty is more normal--though it's still, by far, industry leading compared to other EVs.
But from a normal mileage standpoint for most normal consumers who drive ~12,500 miles a year, it's still a pretty good proposition.
The S unlimited warranty came into effect after people started losing faith in the drivetrain (early drivetrain reliability was atrocious), and the long-term battery health was still something that people were extremely mistrustful of (thanks, Nissan Leaf!). I imagine they did this to help drive business and confidence in the Model S.
Tesla no longer needs to instill such confidence in their products, and thus the warranty is more normal--though it's still, by far, industry leading compared to other EVs.
But from a normal mileage standpoint for most normal consumers who drive ~12,500 miles a year, it's still a pretty good proposition.
BluestarE3
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cgiGuy
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Thomas Edison
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It says 8 years or unlimited miles. Why even put the 8 years part? How could that apply. What am I missing.
The warranty lasts 8 years no matter how many miles you drive (even if you only put 40k miles on it in 8 years)
Thomas Edison
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Doh! I was thinking "lifetime" on my first post, I mixed up the two.
BluestarE3
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Yes this was mentioned upthread. Miles may be unlimited, but there's a time limit of 8 years.
To sum up:
S&X:
Battery: 8 years unlimited miles
Drive unit: 8 years unlimited miles
Everything else: 4 years 50k miles
3:
Battery: 8 years 100k miles (short range), 8 years 120k miles (long range)
Drive unit: 4 years 50k miles
Everything else: 4 years 50k miles
S&X:
Battery: 8 years unlimited miles
Drive unit: 8 years unlimited miles
Everything else: 4 years 50k miles
3:
Battery: 8 years 100k miles (short range), 8 years 120k miles (long range)
Drive unit: 4 years 50k miles
Everything else: 4 years 50k miles
Tesla wants to ensure its gross margins on the 3 are 25% or greater. Warranties are liabilities that tamp down on profit. This is a totally new battery chemistry and drivetrain.
I have 15k miles on a 7 month S.
I have 15k miles on a 7 month S.
Yeah, but there are probably sales people who spend all day driving that really drive it up.
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