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Bay Area, CA to Portland, OR in an s60

Discussion in 'California' started by Jeffgtx, Jun 27, 2014.

  1. Jeffgtx

    Jeffgtx Member

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    Hi. contemplating using the model s60 for a road trip to Portland this summer from San Jose, CA.
    from the supercharger map it looks doable, but there is one spot that i recall to be very mountainous and i wonder if there is risk of not making it supercharger to supercharger at that point.

    will be a fairly straightforward trip of just up and donw I-5, no real deviation for touristy things. Oopen to stopping quite frequently and may not even try to do it all in one day.

    anyone done it? anything to worry about? can be done with S/C only or are there spots that require public chargers to fill in the gaps?

    thanks,
    Jeff
     
  2. ChriZ

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    Going to do it next weekend in my S60 from San Jose to Portland. Will let you know my experience.
     
  3. Tacket

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    Did it over Xmas last year in my 60. Totally doable, no problems. Very little planning needed. SC placed at the right distances. Just watch your miles in the mountains and don't drive to aggressively. You'll do just fine.
     
  4. nleggatt

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    Won't be a problem :) we are almost to Seattle on a return trip from anahiem to Vancouver bc

    Message me if you want tips :)
     
  5. GSP

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    Why not add tips to this thread for all to benefit from?

    GSP
     
  6. nleggatt

    nleggatt Member

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    I was stopped at a sc in the states with no wifi and was using my expensive data plan to post

    I wasn't sure if by the time I posted again if the op would have had tons on feedback

    Home now and will post more details shortly
     
  7. Jeffgtx

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    thanks for the replies folks.

    did you all range charge the entire way? or stay at 80-90%?

    how many people traveling with you? i will have 4 counting myself, so a little extra cargo weight. :)
     
  8. Jason S

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    #8 Jason S, Jun 28, 2014
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    Doubt the weight matters much, it is the speed you go that matters. Keep to the speed limit and should be fine, I think. Be sure to keep in mind the elevation changes!

    Did a similar trip in Feb with our P85 (Sacramento to just past Portland) and the wind + rain made some of the hops a bit sketchy. Averaged ~470 kw/m for one portion. But the estimates were good (except for elevation) so no worries.

    I liked the brewpub stop near Eugene! The Grants Pass supercharger is a bit behind the Black Bear Diner, so was hard to find at first.
     
  9. nleggatt

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    Ok, here are my tips.

    Background: On the 12th of July we did a trip from Vancouver BC, to Palo Alto in 21 hours with charging stops. We returned from LA (yes, we ended up there) via the 405 today (28th of July)
    Car: modelS 60
    Passengers: 2 and a bit of cargo
    Sleeping: Yes, we slept in our car at the SC's lol

    Interesting note: we went from SF City down the #1 all the way to Atascadero Supercharger then back out to the coast #1 all the way to Buellton Supercharger and across to Hawthorn.

    Another Interesting note: we went from Harris Ranch to Vacaville on a single charge :)

    Tips:

    1. Leave with more than enough charge.
    2. If you're close (like when we left from Harris to Vacaville), try to make up your charge early in the trip. One way to do this (especially if you have a wicked headwind), is to drive, not draft, behind a semi. It will take a while but you'll slowly gain miles.
    3. Drive like a roller coaster / semi - it's ok to let your speed dip a little going up a hill to keep your energy usage low... accelerate down the other side, BUT, don't bother going much more than 10MPH over the limit cause a) don't lose that semi, b) you'll start to get into wind resistance issues that hurt your range any ways. By accelerating down the other side, just a result of gravity not increased energy usage, you'll make up the time you slowed down up the front side. On hilly roads this helps even out the ups and downs.
    4. You're better to drive the semi/towing speed limit on the main highways while you make up your energy requirements.
    5. YOU CAN"T MAKE UP RANGE AT THE END
    6. anticipate slowdowns and gradually let your regen increase, you don't want to come to a complete stop, you're just trying to match traffic and hopefully time it so when they start moving you'll have not come to a stop
    7. additional weight in the car really doesn't make that big of a difference.
    8. plan ahead on your charger route. An example of this is... on our way through Washington, there is a stop where we only needed an extra 40 miles to go from one SC to another (because we arrived with so much remaining charge), I figured if I spent the time to get the extra bit of charge, I could drive 1.5 hours to the next charger, then charge 15 minutes, then drive 2.5 ours to the following one. From that one I could stop 45 and finally make the border essentially skipping out the middle charger. AND i was charging at max charge rates while at the second and third charger in that row.

    I ran into many many people who hadn't let their cars go below 40miles range. We were down at 0 at one point and down to 9 another time. If you're within 3-4 miles of your destination when this happens you'll MOST LIKELY be ok... obviously this isn't the goal.

    I'll post more as my brain recovers from sleeping in the car for 3 days lol
     
  10. brianman

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    My suspicion is that sleepy nleggatt meant June.
     
  11. ZBB

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    #11 ZBB, Jun 29, 2014
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    Either that or he has a working flux capacitor...

    Can you tell me me more about the Harris to Vacaville stretch? Anyone done the reverse in a 60? If it's feasible, it might be an option when we return to AZ from BC later this summer. I'm going to go fiddle with EV trip planner now...

    Edit... Just played with EV Trip Planner...

    Going from Vacaville to Harris Ranch direct saves about 30 minutes of driving, but I'd have to range charge in Vacaville, which adds 30 or so extra minutes charging vs going through Gilroy and stopping for a charge in between. So its basically a wash time wise. Since the direct to Harris from Vacaville would requiring driving at .86 speed factor (which is ~60 in a 70 zone), it leaves very little for reserve (shows 186 rated miles needed)...
     
  12. nleggatt

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    Ya June lol
     
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