BBC Fake News - Tesla ordered to recall more than a million US cars

[Tony Hoyle]

Tesla discovered it in testing before anyone was affected. They reported it to NHTSA as a safety bug as they're legally bound to do (that's the mandatory part), then fixed it. It's really a non-story.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't already fixed before any of these headlines happened.

 

[4Monty]

Can't wait to see what else this update breaks on the car The recent alarm going off when you open the car door at 6am was special! Still love the car though

 

[Darmie]

Can't wait to see what else this update breaks on the car The recent alarm going off when you open the car door at 6am was special! Still love the car though

I personally don't really want a slower moving window.

 

[xtofotx]

Neither the media or myself make the rules, if it’s deemed a recall then they’ll call it a recall. Period.

A real recall means vehicles have to be brought to a service center and go through physical, hardware repairs.
Any issue that can be fixed through a software update shouldn't be named a "recall", because it's simply not a recall as the automative industry calls it since decades.

NTHSA needs to adapt to today's world and stop calling required OTA software updates "recalls".

 

[Unclepaul]

Recall is a trigger word, employed to get clicks and cast emotional damage on the Tesla Brand.

More accurate title would be...Tesla will employ software update to improve the safety of their award winning cars even more.

 

[Zilla91]

A real recall means vehicles have to be brought to a service centered and go through physical, hardware repairs.
Any issue that can be fixed through a software update shouldn't be named a "recall", because it's simply not a recall as the automative industry calls it since decades.

Tell that to NHTSA, not me or the BBC. Until they change the terminology it’s a recall. I don’t know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend.

The news article in question is 100% accurate in its reporting.

 

[_Redshift_]

Recall is a trigger word, employed to get clicks and cast emotional damage on the Tesla Brand.

More accurate title would be...Tesla will employ software update to improve the safety of their award winning cars even more.

So you counter a possible clickbait with all out whitewashing propaganda. Nice tactic.

 

[xtofotx]

The news article in question is 100% accurate in its reporting.

It may be factually "accurate", but it is purposedly misleading. That's the whole point of the thread

 

[Unclepaul]

So you counter a possible clickbait with all out whitewashing propaganda. Nice tactic.

Did not think you would notice, but it did evoke a response from you...

 

[CyberGus]

 

[Zilla91]

It may be factually "accurate", but it is purposedly misleading. That's the whole point of the thread

What is misleading? A recall was issued. That’s a statement of fact.

 

[xtofotx]

What is misleading?

Do I really have to explain? If you don't see why all those click-baiting "1 million+ Tesla vehicles recalled" headlines are misleading, then you obviously and deliberately don't want to understand the point here.

“This is a tiny over-the-air software update,” Musk wrote on Thursday, following the mandatory fix imposed by NHTSA. When you can do that, the term “recall” doesn’t really apply to fixing a car’s design flaw, as that normally conveys literally bringing one’s car to a mechanic for work.

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[Zilla91]

Do I really have to explain?

Don’t bother as you’ll just produce some deflections instead of acknowledging the fact NHTSA issued a recall.

 

[Tam]

...So not a recall then? Unbelievable!...

I've known some owners on a fixed low retiree income who can't even afford internet or wifi.

Their software level is frozen at user interface 10 until there's a "recall," and suddenly, they got a new user interface 11/software.

That's the difference between no recall and recall.

No recall benefits most owners but leaves low-income owners behind.

An official recall benefits all.

 

[xtofotx]

Don’t bother as you’ll just produce some deflections instead of acknowledging the fact NHTSA issued a recall.

Well... we're all acknowledging this. That's not the point and you perfectly know it.

Those headlines are purposedly misleading because a recall "normally conveys literally bringing one’s car to a mechanic for work", which is not the case with OTA updates.

I don’t know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend.

Me neither!

 

[xtofotx]

I've known some owners on a fixed low retiree income who can't even afford internet or wifi.

I'm sorry but... people who can't afford internet at home shouldn't buy a Tesla in the first place.

 

[Tam]

I'm sorry but... people who can't afford internet at home shouldn't buy a Tesla in the first place.

When deciding to get either the $30,000 hybrid Prius and $35,000 Tesla, they chose the Tesla with $3,750 Federal Tax Credit (it was reduced from $7,500 at that time) and $2,000 California rebate check.

I understand that it is hard to have any sympathy for the poor.

That is the difference between the law and the lawlessness.

The law covers everyone including the rich and poor.

 

[Zilla91]

Me neither!

Well I’m glad you acknowledge that you do indeed struggle to comprehend that a recall is a recall.

2+2=4. I look forward to you acknowledging this fact and then going on to claim that it’s misleading and it doesn’t actually equal 4

 

[xtofotx]

Well I’m glad you acknowledge that you do indeed struggle to comprehend that a recall is a recall.

2+2=4. I look forward to you acknowledging this fact and then going on to claim that it’s misleading and it doesn’t actually equal 4

Wow ok... "recall" me when you understand the basic principles of a conversation.

 

[xtofotx]

When deciding to get either the $30,000 hybrid Prius and $35,000 Tesla, they chose the Tesla with $3,750 Federal Tax Credit (it was reduced from $7,500 at that time) and $2,000 California rebate check.

I understand that it is hard to have any sympathy for the poor.

That is the difference between the law and the lawlessness.

The law covers everyone including the rich and poor.

All I'm saying is that when you're getting close to retirement, you know your income will decrease a lot, so you should plan your budget ahead in a appropriate way based on your future retiree income. If your monthly budget is so tight you can't even afford an internet connection at home, I believe you should reconsider even buying or leasing a car. And if you live in a rural place and absolutely need a car, there are now plenty of great affordable electric cars on the market a lot cheaper than Teslas.

Don't get me wrong: if my wife and I were to buy our Teslas today instead of last year, we could not afford them. We would probably have a Model 3 along with an ICE VUS, simply because we would have had a choice to make according to our budget.