In case people missed the story - this is how the BBC got back to London
A Range Rover Sport. They didn't even use a BMW X5!
A Range Rover Sport. They didn't even use a BMW X5!
Just seen that the Register has seen fit to make us the title story on their weekly round up email.
mpt
Electrics are back
Scanning the comments; I saw this AutoCar article doing the same thing but despite the same inevitable outcome the story comes over as factual and accurate rather than attention grabbing Clarksonian bafooning around. http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/250529/
Jaff
Active Member
Agree Michael, What I find disappointing are the comments posted to these stories by their respective forum members...profoundly ignorant of current EV technology...the task of educating some of these folks will be akin to pushing water uphill with a toothpick.
mpt
Electrics are back
That's what I was left with too. I'm a noob to the EV world, I've only been really in this for the last three or four years; I don't count staring out of the window when I was 12 dreaming of my electric flying car. Reading those quotes made me realize the enormity of the education that's going to have to come to get these folks up to speed. I have to doth my cap to the likes of Begley, Scott and Sexton who've been battling this for more than a decade.
mpt
Electrics are back
Another way of reviewing the MINI, Adam Carolla's car cast with the MINI E, test drive starts at 10:44
The review is about the car.
The review is about the car.
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That PG guy cannot be satisfied.
OK Peter. I will enter my garage and turn on my electric car. I'll read a book, organize some tools, and come out a couple of hours later, smarter and life in place.
Then you can go into your garage and start up your car with an internal combustion engine. You will die
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
After NiMH was sidelined they effectively had some time off until recent lithium developments changed the picture significantly. We've also seen the FUD levels skyrocketing in recent years as EV's become a viable reality. It's a combination of special interests with a lot to lose, general ignorance, and fear of change.
mpt
Electrics are back
Listening to Faithless, album No Roots, track Mass destruction
http://www.faithless.co.uk/lyrics.php?id=3#Mass Destruction
http://www.faithless.co.uk/lyrics.php?id=3#Mass Destruction
I'm not sure if this piece of apologia by the bloggerati has been aired on this thread yet:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/cartech/are-electric-vehicles-treated-unfairly-by-the-car-press-50002287/
Boils down to "we know we might be pretty harsh on EVs, but because they don't do everything we imagine they should (whatever that are actually sold for) we're damn right to show them up for the heap of stinking trash they obviously are."
Sad really.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/cartech/are-electric-vehicles-treated-unfairly-by-the-car-press-50002287/
Boils down to "we know we might be pretty harsh on EVs, but because they don't do everything we imagine they should (whatever that are actually sold for) we're damn right to show them up for the heap of stinking trash they obviously are."
Sad really.
Jaff
Active Member
With respect to the EV issue, I view this differently Andrew.
Those content to reside in a state of blissful ignorance have my sympathy.
Those who are overtly ingnorant have my contempt.
Those content to reside in a state of blissful ignorance have my sympathy.
Those who are overtly ingnorant have my contempt.
Norbert
TSLA will win
Yes, seems to boil down to "Sorry, but they deserve it". Makes me wonder whether the author really thinks to be on a mission of revealing truth, though. For a moment.
With the Leaf (and the Volt), mass-produced EVs are just coming to the market (in the UK apparently not even yet), so the "current state" of EVs is obviously very dynamic, for example regarding charging stations, and is not really worth making a big fuzz about. However, rather than describe their findings as of relative value, these opinion-blogs seem to try to portrait their findings as "the reality" as opposed to "the hype". As if they are trying to take opportunity of the moment to give EVs a bad rep just before they come to market, more than as if they are trying to warn future customers of hidden future difficulties. (I guess I'm just stating the obvious.)
There seems to be a (working) strategy of brainwashing tech audiences into thinking EVs are crap, as maybe these are the types that friends and family will go to for advice on stuff that runs on electrons.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I left a comment yesterday but got a warning it contained "spam terms" and was awaiting moderation. I still don't see it. So pro EV stances are now spam?
Top Gear 23 January 2011 8pm UK
More BBC FUD tonight I am afraid on the new series of Top Gear in the UK.
In the news segment there was a discussion about ever rising petrol and diesel prices.
Summary: Petrol prices are only going to go higher (honest). You might imagine electric vehicles would be the answer, but they're ALL not ready (hmmm). Clarkson: "So what if you wanted to drive home from the Studio in an electric car?" Hammond: "It would take me two days because I'd have to recharge."
According to a quick search, Top Gear Studio is at Dunsfold Park Aerodrome and Hammond lives at Bollitree Castle, Weston-under-Penyard, Herefordshire. Google maps gives that as 123 miles via the M4.
This is easily a one charge Tesla journey, and of course a Tesla is easily in the price range of a Richard Hammond.
I call foul and deliberate bias.
More BBC FUD tonight I am afraid on the new series of Top Gear in the UK.
In the news segment there was a discussion about ever rising petrol and diesel prices.
Summary: Petrol prices are only going to go higher (honest). You might imagine electric vehicles would be the answer, but they're ALL not ready (hmmm). Clarkson: "So what if you wanted to drive home from the Studio in an electric car?" Hammond: "It would take me two days because I'd have to recharge."
According to a quick search, Top Gear Studio is at Dunsfold Park Aerodrome and Hammond lives at Bollitree Castle, Weston-under-Penyard, Herefordshire. Google maps gives that as 123 miles via the M4.
This is easily a one charge Tesla journey, and of course a Tesla is easily in the price range of a Richard Hammond.
I call foul and deliberate bias.
