Be aware of ICE Bullies

[Buggle]

Why was she so angry that she would trash her own car? Did I miss something?

When your hubby makes a lot of money it's easy to get angry over stupid stuff.

 

[Buggle]

I had someone spit tobacco on my M3 at a local Cracker Barrel when we went in for lunch a few weeks ago. They tried to aim at the door handle, just missed...
I don't understand the angst. It's an American built car, built in the USA, by Americans!
What's the deal?

Easy -- most people are stupid. Sad, but true.

 

[Kanting]

When your hubby makes a lot of money it's easy to get angry over stupid stuff.

Maybe the hubby is in the other car, with someone else.

 

[Garlan Garner]

Well,

Now there's this:

https://electrek.co/2019/01/14/tesla-sollution-avoid-gas-cars-icing-superchargers/

 

[RayK]

Wouldn't work in most places here in the US. Ford F-250s and their ilk would simply park over the bracket.

edit: Ah, that's already covered in the article....

 

[Silicon Desert]

Well,

Now there's this:

Tesla implements innovative way to avoid gas cars ‘Icing’ Superchargers

Interesting. To me, just looks like something to cause accidental damage to cars.

 

[Toumal]

This needs to be enhanced with a higher bar and deployed all over. I've seen systems like this before and this has completely eradicated the problem of ICEing. However since this were Type2 AC chargers, what it did not solve was PHEVs hogging fast charge outputs, and BEVs not being plugged in at all.

Another garage started putting little movable blockers onto the charge spots which unfortunately only partially worked, since some ICE drivers just get out and move them away without any qualms or remorse. The world is their oyster. But an automated system is a great thing, provided the construction is resilient against failure or premature rearming.

 

[whatthe2]

Well,

Now there's this:

Tesla implements innovative way to avoid gas cars ‘Icing’ Superchargers

Those don't look dangerous enough. Turn them into big spikes - much better deterrence.

 

[Silicon Desert]

You are encouraged to catch them in the act and publish their pictures in this thread.

So I am a bit puzzled as usual. What can we accomplish by doing this? The ICE owners could care less if we post their photos here.
This reminds me that sometimes I dream about driving to a gas station and just sit there at the pump while I have lunch.

 

[groovidad]

I agree with many on here that making a "big deal" out of this could drive a bigger response by our ICE buddies. That said, I would just call the police. I'm sure they would be more than happy to write the citation up. Eventually, signage will be posted warning ICE vehicles of potential fines if caught parking in a CS. No different than reserved parking for state vehicles, emergency vehicles, handicapped, etc.

 

[Silicon Desert]

[QUOTE="groovidad, post: 3333503, member: 88394"That said, I would just call the police. I'm sure they would be more than happy to write the citation up. [/QUOTE]
Not sure about other places, but up here they aren't going to give a citation for something like that. Neighbor officer said something to the effect that it was not a city ordinance and he doesn't ticket them and the dispatcher isn't going to send them out for something like this anyway. Maybe other places they can do it.

 

[groovidad]

[QUOTE="groovidad, post: 3333503, member: 88394"That said, I would just call the police. I'm sure they would be more than happy to write the citation up.

Not sure about other places, but up here they aren't going to give a citation for something like that. Neighbor officer said something to the effect that it was not a city ordinance and he doesn't ticket them and the dispatcher isn't going to send them out for something like this anyway. Maybe other places they can do it.[/QUOTE]
Here, 5O loves issuing citations! It's just a matter of time before states, counties, cities, townships, yadda, yadda begin enforcing CS etiquette. Hell, if anything, they are adding money to the local coffers. IF fines were assessed at $250 per violation, a few would pay dearly but, in the end, most will stop with the nonsense.

 

[whatthe2]

Not sure about other places, but up here they aren't going to give a citation for something like that. Neighbor officer said something to the effect that it was not a city ordinance and he doesn't ticket them and the dispatcher isn't going to send them out for something like this anyway. Maybe other places they can do it.

[QUOTE="Here, 5O loves issuing citations! It's just a matter of time before states, counties, cities, townships, yadda, yadda begin enforcing CS etiquette. Hell, if anything, they are adding money to the local coffers. IF fines were assessed at $250 per violation, a few would pay dearly but, in the end, most will stop with the nonsense.[/QUOTE]

Yep, very few states have enacted a law.

Legislation Reference - Reserved Parking for Plug-In Vehicle Charging | PlugInSites

 

[Zoglog]

I never thought i'd see a live action version of the bully hunters. *grabs popcorn*

 

[ohmman]

This needs to be enhanced with a higher bar and deployed all over. I've seen systems like this before and this has completely eradicated the problem of ICEing.

One of the main problems with doing so in the US is that most of the locations aren't owned by Tesla. I'm guessing Tesla could negotiate this with the property owner and put them in as permitted, but I know many locations actually allow ICEing on at least some stalls with 30 or 60 minute limits.

 

[JAG]

I was at the Glenwood Springs Colorado Supercharger a few weeks back and Ledt while charging my car and when I came back 5 cars blocked all the other chargers and it was -10 degree outside . It was late 4 am and I thought if I leave some other tesla owner might be completely ICE'd out freezing to death with a depleted battery pack and unable to push his car. So I sat up , did my tesla Tax rebate and waited until another tesla owner showed in to charge and save the space. Turns out he only needed 20 min, so I waited and again held the space in case anyone else would come as there wasn't any place open at 5am for a hotel. I ended up leaving after the sun came up. It is SO OBVIOIS people should not park there or at least leave a note.

On the other hand , once I was charging at Telluride and I did not park far enough to the left and that allowed another car to block the ability for an EV to charge, so I indirectly once blocked a spot and got a note to that effect.

 

[Exscite]

Well,

Now there's this:

Tesla implements innovative way to avoid gas cars ‘ICEing’ Superchargers

Now look what I have found (Tweeter from Taiwan):
Tesla Owners Taiwan on Twitter
Tesla Taiwan testing out new supercharger ground locks solution to fix ICE issues. A camera identifies the Tesla via plate number as the car backs up and unlocks accordingly

 

[JetFalcon]

I stop at gas stations to use the bathroom cause they are usually right next to the freeway. Does that make me a bad person?

We need bathrooms at superchargers. Because now I will have to piss in a bush if I really have to go. Because those super chargers are always placed in like the very back of shopping centers.

 

[banned-66611]

EVSE Violator | Search Results | Vehicle of the Future

Interesting that there is a Model 3 on there. Don't Tesla educate new owners about charging etiquette? I remember when I got my first Leaf the guy explained how not to be a dick.

 

[Exscite]

Another thought on the subject of (general) illegal parking, also applicable for ICE parking at Tesla Supercharger.
This picture was found posted somewhere on the Internet...