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Best home charger?

pdk42

Active Member
Jul 17, 2019
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Leamington
The saga of my charger install continues. I had a Rolec for a month and it never worked and now I've got an Evbox Elvi which keeps dropping back to 16A max at random times. So, I'm going to push my installer for a new charger of my choice. Can anyone recommend the best? I've heard good things about the Zappi and the EO. Any others with looking at?
 

slave0418

Member
Aug 23, 2019
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29
Florida
This is a good alternative LOL :)
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interbear

Member
May 27, 2019
715
616
Monmouthshire, UK
I’ve now used my Andersen charger a couple of times since picking up my Model 3 last weekend. I can confirm that it works well, the cable storage is effective (not a faff) and the app to schedule charging start / stop times works fine (once you’ve found out how to do it via a long press on “Last Charge/Timer” to bring up the scheduler, that took me a while to work out). The app also allows you to enter a price per kWh unit so records the cost of each charge as well as time and number of units. Would be better if you could put in two rates for peak and off peak unit pricing but at the moment you can only put one price in so need to change it each time if charging during different periods. Overall, happy I went with the Andersen, works well and looks decent.
 

vitesse

Active Member
Apr 2, 2019
1,023
285
Hertfordshire (UK)
Sorry to hear about your ROLEC experience! We had ta hardo trace intermittent problem but once identifed and rectified (faulty car-end plug) it's worked flawlessly.
 

interbear

Member
May 27, 2019
715
616
Monmouthshire, UK
I’ve now used my Andersen charger a couple of times since picking up my Model 3 last weekend. I can confirm that it works well, the cable storage is effective (not a faff) and the app to schedule charging start / stop times works fine (once you’ve found out how to do it via a long press on “Last Charge/Timer” to bring up the scheduler, that took me a while to work out). The app also allows you to enter a price per kWh unit so records the cost of each charge as well as time and number of units. Would be better if you could put in two rates for peak and off peak unit pricing but at the moment you can only put one price in so need to change it each time if charging during different periods. Overall, happy I went with the Andersen, works well and looks decent.

Bit of a glitch on the scheduled charging on the Andersen Konnect app. Set a scheduled charge but it then locked the charger which seemed bizarre. Great build quality for the charger and when it’s charging it works fine, but the app is clearly a bit of an afterthought.

I’ve resorted to scheduling charges via the Model 3 screen, to start when the off peak Octopus period starts at 00:30. That’s fine but the Andersen app should be better than it is. I’ll be contacting them with feedback on this, premium price charger needs a better app to live up to it’s “smart” claim. Unless this is expected behaviour, I’ll see what they say and report back.
 
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vitesse

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Apr 2, 2019
1,023
285
Hertfordshire (UK)
Not M3 but should work just the same; I've now started using Teslafi scheduled actions to stop charging our MS at 4:30AM (end of off-peak tariff with Octopus Go - the 00:30 starting time is programmed in the car). Works well. We just missed the 'smart' wall point era :D
 
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PXW1

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Sep 16, 2019
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Surrey
I ordered it with the charger. Don’t know where the charger supplier sourced it, I’m afraid. I do know they are not cheap though. My quote was increased by about £160 to cover the extra cost of the tethered cable vs the normal EO mini unit.
 

Jason71

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May 8, 2019
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Shropshire
Looking for installers in my area. came across this table on an installers website.
it was headed "Charging Times and typical costs for 100 mile range"
I think some of the numbers might be a little suspect such 12.9 hours on a 7.2kw/h charger for a range of 100 miles!

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WannabeOwner

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Nov 2, 2015
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2,896
Suffolk, UK
I think some of the numbers might be a little suspect such 12.9 hours on a 7.2kw/h charger for a range of 100 miles!

And the 4.5p / mile on Octopus Go tariff - that's 1000 wH/mile ! - not so much an Average as a Challenge!

and the Petrol equivalent for "Large saloon" is 20 MPG ... maybe that is reasonable, but seems pretty unreasonable to me.
 

jimbo_hippo

Member
Sep 15, 2019
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Manchester UK
Wouldn't it be great if the Tesla charger would talk to the Powerwall inn a more sophisticated manner so it all worked a bit more seamlessly. Keep it all in one family so too speak.

I have a 5.9kW PV with Powerwall 2/Tesla Gateway plus the Tesla charger (which I believe is wired to the Gateway). The App has some intelligence regarding scheduling and cancelling out peak use, charging off peak and hints at having levels of intelligence but it's 'on or off' for charging cars really as far as I can see. Lengthy chats with my installer suggest that, whilst the Rolec is a top bit of kit, when you have several apps controlling several 'intelligent' devices but they don't talk to each other, setting a list of tasks, outside of designing an entire, multi-protocol control system on top becomes like juggling soot. Since the Powerwall is obviously aware of grid, solar shifts and scheduling (illustrated by the Tesla app Powerwall display), you'd think that adding the functionality found in the Rolec or Zappi into the Tesla side would be a given. I guess it's a side-effect of a dealing with a company growing so fast and they can't develop everything in one go.
 

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