BEV are exploding all over China.

[MontyFloyd]

I posted in another thread, but decided this needs its own thread.

If this report is credible, 7 BYD BEV cars a day are catching fire, occasionally exploding.
And BVD is just one of 4 BEV makers in China (besides Tesla)

China's Electric Explosions: 7 EVs catch fire each day - Electric Vehicle Info

In recent years China recorded several fire-related incidents involving new energy vehicles. China's Electric Explosions: 7 EVs catch fire

e-vehicleinfo.com

I first leaned of this in this YT video, and the creator said it is due to Chinas massive and careless drive to EV with little regard to quality/safty.

Found two more

 

[Midpack]

The internet is so full of misinformation these days, you have to triple check EVERYTHING you read. It would help if EVERYONE did so before posting and contributing to the “confusion.” This source states:

• According to the Chinese Fire and Rescue Department of the Ministry Emergency Management’s data released on 3-April-2022, that means that there are seven EVs catching fire per day. [not exclusively BYD EVs]
• If you think that the fire incidents are limited to only cars from Chinese brands, a number of Teslas had also fell victim to battery fires. The models that reportedly caught fire are the Model 3 and Model S. [In fact if you calculate number of Tesla fires (5) per car sold vs number of BYD EV fires (11) per car sold - I suspect you will find Tesla had more fires per car.]
• Out of 86 reported fire accidents, Chinese brand BYD has the most reported fires [only 11 of 86]. But it is hardly surprising as BYD is the largest EV manufacturer in China.
• Out of 86 reported incidents only 7 incidents were due to unknown causes while 31 occurred while the car was parked, 22 occurred during charging, 20 occurred when the car was still on the move, and six occurred after a collision.

Who’s closer to the facts? Do your own homework…

In China, 640 EVs caught fire in the first quarter of 2022, up 32 percent | WapCar

Although electric vehicles (EV) are heralded as the future of mobility, however, it seems that EV manufacturers has yet to get a handle on the issue of battery catching fire. It is barely summer in Ch

www.wapcar.my

 

[MontyFloyd]

The internet is so full of misinformation these days, you have to triple check EVERYTHING you read. It would help if EVERYONE did so before posting and contributing to the “confusion.” This source states:

• According to the Chinese Fire and Rescue Department of the Ministry Emergency Management’s data released on 3-April-2022, that means that there are seven EVs catching fire per day. [not exclusively BYD EVs]
• If you think that the fire incidents are limited to only cars from Chinese brands, a number of Teslas had also fell victim to battery fires. The models that reportedly caught fire are the Model 3 and Model S.
• Out of 86 reported fire accidents, Chinese brand BYD has the most reported fires [only 11 of 86]. But it is hardly surprising as BYD is the largest EV manufacturer in China.
• Out of 86 reported incidents only 7 incidents were due to unknown causes while 31 occurred while the car was parked, 22 occurred during charging, 20 occurred when the car was still on the move, and six occurred after a collision.

Who’s closer to the facts? Do your own homework…

In China, 640 EVs caught fire in the first quarter of 2022, up 32 percent | WapCar

Although electric vehicles (EV) are heralded as the future of mobility, however, it seems that EV manufacturers has yet to get a handle on the issue of battery catching fire. It is barely summer in Ch

www.wapcar.my

Agree info is dubious, especially coming from China.
And there may be wrongly blaming all on 1 company, since BYD is the most popular, easy to say all Chinese BEV is BYD. Ooops, my error, it is all Chinese made BEV, not BYD only

And yes, a few Tesla did have battery issues, from what incomplete info I know only after accidents.

That article you posted

in-china-640-evs-caught-fire-in-the-first-quarter-of-2022-up-32-percent

640 cars in 120 days = 5.3 a day.
And this was last year.
If that rate is the same, then as more are produced, more BEV will burn.

Posted data line up. Apologies for singling out BYD, my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Cosmacelf]

And what’s the rate of ICE vehicles catching fire? At least in the US, many more ICE vehicles catch fire per vehicle fleet than EVs.

Anyways, what’s the point you were trying to make?

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

And what’s the rate of ICE vehicles catching fire? At least in the US, many more ICE vehicles catch fire per vehicle fleet than EVs.

Anyways, what’s the point you were trying to make?

And that's the key point: it's a relative thing.

China has a _lot_ of EVs so you should expect they'd have more fires.

 

[chiangfc]

Hello every.
I suspect very bad journalism as oppose to real EV car fires. After searching I think found the report from the ministry. It mentions 6400 fires but it mainly e-bikes and how they need to do more research and action in the two wheel vehicle industry. Then I found more articles referring to that report but they minimise mentions of e-bikes and instead put in example of ev car burning. It gives a false impression it’s about cars. I suspect but cannot verify this is the basis of the report above with someone later reducing 6400 to 640


The link:

There have been 6462 electric vehicle fire accidents across the country this year, and the market penetration of lithium electric plates has increased._SMM | Shanghai Non ferrous Metals

According to the statistics of the Fire and Rescue Bureau, there have been 6462 electric vehicle fire accidents across the country since the beginning of this year. [there have been 6462 electric vehicle fire accidents nationwide this year. From the cause of fire, electrical failure and...

news.metal.com

The edited report

There have been 6,462 electric vehicle fires across the country this year

China News Service, Beijing, July 21 (Reporter Guo Chaokai) The reporter learned from the Fire and Rescue Bureau of the Ministry of Emergency Management of China on the 21st that there have been 6,462 electric vehicle fires across the country this year. 　　On July 20, the Fire and Rescue Bureau...

www.tellerreport.com

 

[LorddGoldd]

Please don’t watch that guy from the first video ‘SerpentZA’. He’s really salty with China because he got deported.

 

[Cosmacelf]

Please don’t watch that guy from the first video ‘SerpentZA’. He’s really salty with China because he got deported.

He got deported??? What’s the backstory on that?

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

He got deported???

He didn't get deported. He fled to avoid arrest. His long-time friend and business partner did the same, along with their wives (and one already had a child). Might have been their Conquering Northern China documentary that pushed things over the edge. Can't show anything the Chinese government doesn't want you to show, and as the government became increasingly paranoid, nationalistic and oppressive, even any of their rather tame, self-censored criticism became too much.

It's kind of laughable the stuff you take for granted that they censor and arrest people for. It's a country that censored the first line of its national anthem at one point.

He's also not salty with China. He loves China. It's the Chinese government he hates. Who doesn't hate oppressive dictatorships?

 

[ThomasD]

People go to other countries and act stupid because they think that they can act the way do in their home countries.

 

[dingyibvs]

He didn't get deported. He fled to avoid arrest. His long-time friend and business partner did the same, along with their wives (and one already had a child). Might have been their Conquering Northern China documentary that pushed things over the edge. Can't show anything the Chinese government doesn't want you to show, and as the government became increasingly paranoid, nationalistic and oppressive, even any of their rather tame, self-censored criticism became too much.

It's kind of laughable the stuff you take for granted that they censor and arrest people for. It's a country that censored the first line of its national anthem at one point.

He's also not salty with China. He loves China. It's the Chinese government he hates. Who doesn't hate oppressive dictatorships?

He's certainly been a victim of CPC censorship, but since he left China he's just been a big source of misinformation on China/CPC.

 

[MontyFloyd]

He's certainly been a victim of CPC censorship, but since he left China he's just been a big source of misinformation on China/CPC.

Easy to find other reports to back what he videos.
He might embellish, but its not fake.

Besides, we have over 100 years of history on how dictatorships function, and they all exhibit the same paranoia and policing mentality.

 

[dipper]

He is not wrong. China is acting like Vietnam had been in the 70s and 80s. I still don't trust any commy after my dad lost all his money and company to them.

I don't trust a commy even in America. And there so many here in USA, but never lived under commy regime.

 

[dingyibvs]

Easy to find other reports to back what he videos.
He might embellish, but its not fake.

Besides, we have over 100 years of history on how dictatorships function, and they all exhibit the same paranoia and policing mentality.

His BYD graveyard story has been thoroughly debunked, for example. I'm not saying all his stories are fake, but he clearly has a very consistent agenda to push. I wouldn't trust a channel that has a consistent message on anything. For Teslas for example, I wouldn't trust a channel that trashes Teslas in every video or one that praises Teslas in every video.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

His BYD graveyard story has been thoroughly debunked, for example. I'm not saying all his stories are fake, but he clearly has a very consistent agenda to push. I wouldn't trust a channel that has a consistent message on anything. For Teslas for example, I wouldn't trust a channel that trashes Teslas in every video or one that praises Teslas in every video.

He didn't make a BYD graveyard story.

 

[MontyFloyd]

BYD graveyard story

What BYD graveyard story ?

 

[teca01]

What BYD graveyard story ?

This maybe?

and this is the debunk from InsideEV Inside China’s EV Graveyard: Journalist Debunks Allegations Against Carmakers

 

[oldsport]

 

[CrazyRabbit]

Tesla have battery packs manufactured in China sold in China and now in the USA. So the teslas could be China batteries.

I do not like 100Ah prismatic batteries in electrical vehicle battery packs, if a cell short occurs there is no fuse to blow possibly stopping a fire. Tesla battery packs built with cylindrical cells have fuses. Seems like a better idea, don’t know if it shows in the data, battery compositions are different, so not apples to apples.

 

[oldsport]

china led by ccp w winnie the pooh in charge is an unreliable partner in any and every aspect of life - crooks liars manipulators they are... certainly not like japan or korea...