This guy is better informed than other pundits but still gets somethings wrong. Like the frame is built in England. I also think he doesn't have a complete view of the dealership fight. But, overall, he has a better than average journalist's understanding of the company (though that's not saying much).
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Bloomberg/BusinessWeek interview on Tesla
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Scott Ales
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What an amazing amount of misleading and misguided comments. I don’t know where to begin! I would love to have a discussion with this gentleman to open his mind to the power of the majority and the future. The most important thing to state is this, every law on the books in the US can be changed with voter majority. The “Powerful Dealerships” are real, that is accurate. But never discount the voters! You may remember a certain segment of our political system who recently did so. Tesla, the first open source car manufacturer. A paradigm shift in business, politics, social media, and sustainability. I have made my living for the last 30 years in the automotive dealership realm and the buying public is screaming for this change. At some point buyers will stop buying from those who stand in their way from getting what they want. And for the record, the MA & Pa dealerships he commented on who support the local economy are dying fast! Large corporate groups are devouring them at a very rapid rate. That was a very weak point for him to make.
Scott Ales
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I just don't get it, I am a lifelong republican and entrepreneur. I think most of the problem is many people are ideologues. If I belong to a certain group of people I must agree with the ideas they have stated opinions on. I guess I am just too independent to go down that road. If anyone takes the time to fully understand the motives of this company and associated efforts of those involved it is clear to see why the public is buying into the business. Let the buyers decide and win people over one person at a time through driver and ownership experience. They will eventually get it right, consider the first 6 months of the Ford factory at the turn of the century! Can you imagine the comments people made? It is human nature to protect your position and point to a long list of failures. Just look at corporate America! Executives will rarely if ever risk their jobs to change things up. While there are many, many unique features on the Tesla products, currently I feel the most undervalued is the ability to update the car without physically touching it. It is hard for the typical driver to comprehend what this means. But it will come with time. It's all fun!!
The problem is a political problem rather then actual. Why are republicans against EVs or cleaner technologies as a whole? Because democrats generally are for EVs and cleaner technologies.(I say generally because not everyone is the same). The same happens on the democrats being against things just because republicans are for those things. Unfortunately squabbles have devolved into blocking the other guy rather then competing to make things better. And like all things, if your opponent stands for 1 thing, and you stand for the other thing it also splits up money contribution. People for it will contribute one way and people against it will contribute the other way.
Both democrats and republicans can support EVs, but politics gets in the way.
He originally said Germany, then stuttered, then said GB. Methinks he read this somewhere and didn't verify it.
ZBB
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No -- he confused the Roadster (platform made by Lotus in the UK) vs the S (all unibody stampings made in Fremont)...
Not sure why you need to say No. I believe the motors come from Germany. He started to say Germany, probably because he heard that something comes from German but the "frame comes from the UK" thing has been floating around since the before the Model S.
The motors are made in California. The steering column and other miscellaneous parts come from Daimler suppliers. Nothing major.
And now we have an interesting social experiment on the forums.
PhilBa - Source for this belief? I'm quite curious.
sp4rk
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What I meant is that I think he literally read "Germany" or "Great Britain" in a paper and/or internet form in English -- not German.
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