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BMW CEO: US i3 Sales to be a “Couple Thousand” in 2014

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by RobStark, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. RobStark

    RobStark Active Member

    Jul 2, 2013
    Los Angeles
  2. hileyms

    hileyms Member

    Aug 29, 2013
  3. sranger

    sranger Member

    Dec 22, 2013
    Kennesaw, GA
    At first I though BMW was serious about EV's. I even though about getting a REx version of the i3 as I know that I need more than 80 miles of range ( but less than 150) often in my daily driving. The car was fun to drive and was surprisingly comfortable. It was much easier to get in and out of than the Model S. Even fully loaded it is about $38K less than the Model S I ordered. I even kind of like it's quirky looks.

    However, now I found out that NONE of the i3 will have sun roofs for 2014 in the US. I suspect that they cannot pass the crush test with the big hole in the roof...

    The weird "ECO" Knaf material they put around the dash and doors of the pre-production cars is actually going to remain and it looks HORRIBLE (I though it was a pre-production thing). It has NO business in a $40-50K car.

    You cannot engage the REx until the State of Charge drops below 5%. This will case a power limited mode of operation in many cases of highway speeds and long hills. They did this to try and get a white sticker for the car pool lanes in California and it did not work. It still gets BMW more ZEV credits but offers NO benefit to the customer and actually will cause problems for the customer. The European models can engage the REx anything below 80% SOC.

    The little 2.5 gal gas tank is only good for about 45-50 miles at highway speeds even if it can keep up with the demand at such a low SOC...

    The reports of the Electric range in the REx version is shaping be less than 65 miles...

    In short it is shaping up to be more and more of a compliance car....
  4. lolachampcar

    lolachampcar Active Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    WPB Florida
    I checked with my bud at the local BMW dealership who said they have built out a portion of their showroom for them and expect them in three months (in Florida).
  5. yobigd20

    yobigd20 Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2012
    Skaneateles, NY
    WOW. That is going to be a HUGE problem for them. This is VERY unsafe and outright dangerous on highways. I read about this in this review First Review In: 2014 BMW i3 Range Extender Performance Limited and BMW told him that he should have engaged the REX when the battery dropped below 50%. But the US models won't allow this until below 5%? I can't seriously see this working for them at all. I think they'll have to chance this once they start causing accidents on major highways because they are limited to going 30mph when everyone else is PO'd and screaming around you at 70mph. This car is a joke of a project. Only fuels my distaste for BMW.

    I've been starting to see dozens of posts from Honda Fit EV owners having problems in cold weather. They're range is dropping below 30 miles, with some as low as 20. That's a 60-70% range loss...and doesn't seem to be isolated to a few owners. sorry Honda but I think your Fit is another crappy EV, along with the BMW i3. But I guess they have to start somewhere and learn from their mistakes...

    That's what I've been telling everyone since day 1.
  6. qwk

    qwk Model S P2681

    Dec 19, 2008
    Most people don't listen to reasonable words, nor do they learn from history.
    The existing automakers haven't made EV's for 100 years(or ever), and all of a sudden they are going to make awesome ones that people want to buy? Sounds like a fairytale, because it is.
  7. strider

    strider Active Member

    Oct 20, 2010
    NE Oklahoma
    I received an invite to test drive one in mid-February. Can't decide if it's worth taking the time off work.
  8. Vger

    Vger Active Member

    Apr 10, 2009
    Salt Spring Island, BC, Canada
    In the business I founded, we were competing with GE, Siemens and Philips in medical imaging software. It took them about 10 years to partially catch up to us. I have seen this movie before. :wink:
  9. TonyWilliams

    TonyWilliams Member

    Jun 11, 2012
    San Diego - Tesla powered Rav4 EV
    You better hurry, because BMW has "100,000 orders" for the "first premium production EV" that optionally burns gasoline!!!

    If you don't get the oil engine option, you have a car with few advantages over a 2011 Nissan LEAF, and several disadvantages. If you pay extra for the optional Frankenplug, good luck finding those 5 charging stations in California, because if you do find some of them, they probably won't work.

    This car seemed to have such possibilities (outside of the endless hype and endless comparisons to Tesla that rarely applied). A clean piece of paper design, advanced materials, BMW mindset, et al. They could have built a shorter range Tesla Model E and signed up with a Tesla for "niche" Supercharger access. It could have looked awesome. I just don't get it.

    So far, it's a very expensive CARB compliance car; actually, the MOST expensive one at $55k loaded (Rav4 EV is second at $51k, but has almost double the real world highway range of i3).
  10. Shumdit

    Shumdit Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    I was really hoping this would be a great seller for them. If a company like BMW can successfully market and sell a BEV I would consider that a win for the industry since it would expose more people to their benefits and legitimize the BEV segment even further.

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