jcaspar
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Looks like they will have to say anything to sell those things. An expensive Leaf that isn't quite as good looking, with some carbon fiber. PT Barnum said it best...
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Has Tesla trademarked the term "supercharger"? Chademo and whatever the SAE fast DC charging standard is called shouldn't be referred to as superchargers. I can picture the car salesmen calling them that. It will cause confusion among the masses who buy EVs without knowing too much about them, such as the people described in the above posts.I've always been surprised at the number of times I've heard someone on a forum (non-Tesla EV owner) say they don't have a home charger and it happened to me the other day. Was picking up some dinner and a woman asked me if that was my Tesla outside. I said yes and we talked about it for a while. She had a Leaf and said that she didn't have a charger at home - that she just relied on the level 2 chargers around and the "Superchargers" (by which I assume she meant CHAdeMO). She was extremely complementary of the Tesla and it was just interesting to hear how very different her charging experience is from mine. SO glad I don't have to rely on public charging stations to get my juice!
I'm really surprised at how many people are laughing at this driver's misfortune. Poor guy just spent a good chunk of money and was clearly poorly educated. This does not help the EV movement.
I really feel for the guy. Hope he can learn to appreciate his car for what it is. If it doesn't fit his needs, hope he finds himself in a Tesla rather than an ICE vehicle. I'm sure he appreciated the help and education from the OP much more than getting laughed here.
I think we Tesla owners are classier than mocking non-Tesla EV's.
Has Tesla trademarked the term "supercharger"? Chademo and whatever the SAE fast DC charging standard is called shouldn't be referred to as superchargers. I can picture the car salesmen calling them that. It will cause confusion among the masses who buy EVs without knowing too much about them, such as the people described in the above posts.
Just think, I've seen a half dozen commercials today on the Big 10 Network featuring the BMW i3 and BMW's assertion that the i3 is the "official luxury automobile of the Big 10 Conference"...Big 10' you've made a horrible mistake!!About a week ago I was at the Supercharger at San Juan Capistrano, CA charging up and a BMW i3 pulled in next to me in a Supercharger slot. I thought to myself, "This will be interesting". The car looked new and was driven by a man about 40 years old and had his son, about 5 years old, in the back. He pulled out the Supercharger cable and looked at the plug with a confused look on his face. He then looked at the plug on his car and went back to look at the Supercharger plug. I felt I needed to stage an intervention.
So I introduced myself to the man and explained that this was only for Tesla's and that his i3 would not be able to charge here. He was a pretty ticked off. He told me that the dealership told him that there were 6 "hi-power" chargers in the area that he could charge his car. He then proceeded to mess with his phone to show them on a map to me. After a few minutes of fiddling with apps he found the Charge point app and showed me the "combo" chargers that BMW told him were the "hi powered" chargers. I told him that some had combos and others didn't. I then explained the costs, opening a Charge point account and my experiences and times needed to charge. He had not set up a charging system at his house.
He was getting more and more ticked off with every minute that passed. His wife then rolled up in their SUV, who I guess was following him in his journey to get his car charged. He had about 20 miles of EV range and with a "full" tank of gas he would get about 40 more miles in normal driving. I was feeling range anxiety for him, and I didn't own the car.
He then told me that he owned the car for about a week and replaced his x5 with the i3. There was an absence of excitement in his voice that you'd expect from someone telling you that. We chatted a few more minutes and he was off to find the next Charge point. The funniest part of this story was his last sentence he said to me!
"I should have bought a F-ing Tesla" And he drove off.
(no exaggeration!)
John
I'm really surprised at how many people are laughing at this driver's misfortune.
I think we Tesla owners are classier than mocking non-Tesla EV's.
I'm really surprised at how many people are laughing at this driver's misfortune. Poor guy just spent a good chunk of money and was clearly poorly educated. This does not help the EV movement.
Luxury automobile? The interior looks and feels plastic. I don't get how Germans complain about the Model S interior not being luxurious enough and BMW builds the i3 interior out of recycled bottles or something like that.Just think, I've seen a half dozen commercials today on the Big 10 Network featuring the BMW i3 and BMW's assertion that the i3 is the "official luxury automobile of the Big 10 Conference"...Big 10' you've made a horrible mistake!!
I'm really surprised at how many people are laughing at this driver's misfortune. Poor guy just spent a good chunk of money and was clearly poorly educated. This does not help the EV movement.
I really feel for the guy. Hope he can learn to appreciate his car for what it is. If it doesn't fit his needs, hope he finds himself in a Tesla rather than an ICE vehicle. I'm sure he appreciated the help and education from the OP much more than getting laughed here.
I think we Tesla owners are classier than mocking non-Tesla EV's.
I went to dinner next to a Mercedes dealer who had a chargepoint station. Though I would plug in while at dinner, of course the spaces were taken up by two ICEs, both Mercedes, am I to guess they were the dealers' cars. How do they ever expect to sell EVs if they ICE their own chargers. That is why I plan on only buying Teslas.
While I am not laughing at this driver, I would expect person paying significant ammount of money for single item to research it properly (and not depend on dealers, who are very often dishonest liars).
So, unless cost of i3 is pocket change for him, it shows poor judgement on his part, not to properly research cars he is considering to buy (which doesnt take very long if you can use Google).
I'm really surprised at how many people are laughing at this driver's misfortune. Poor guy just spent a good chunk of money and was clearly poorly educated.
Has Tesla trademarked the term "supercharger"? Chademo and whatever the SAE fast DC charging standard is called shouldn't be referred to as superchargers. I can picture the car salesmen calling them that. It will cause confusion among the masses who buy EVs without knowing too much about them, such as the people described in the above posts.
Something similar happened to me at a BMW dealer in the Philly suburbs. It happened to be next to a hotel that I booked for a night, so I emailed to see if I could charge there overnight. No reply. I got there and the charger was accessible but the space was ICEd by their service loaner. Fortunately the cable was long enough to reach my car, although I had to park halfway into a handicapped space to do so. (I definitely wouldn't have if the dealership was going to be open at all while I was there. But if they were open I could've talked to someone about it.)