Was wondering what the knowledgeable folks around here thought of this approach: Boeing, DARPA to base XS-1 spaceplane at Cape Canaveral – Spaceflight Now
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I'm no expert but yeah, it's kind of shuttle-like except the booster has the wings so it does land. The smaller rocket is like the second stage of an F-9 and has the payload to be delivered to orbit. The booster does use an AeroJet engine, designed for the shuttle. Actually, to me, it's reminiscent of a Pegasus rocket that is carried aloft by an L-1011 and launched from 40,000 ft. Except in this case jet is replaced by a winged booster (and no human crew).Looks like this design is remniscent of Space Shuttle that is boosted by a rocket, except this is a much smaller version.
The question is, what happens to the booster rocket? does it land back?
Looks like this design is reminiscent of Space Shuttle that is boosted by a rocket, except this is a much smaller version.
The question is, what happens to the booster rocket? does it land back?
I'm not convinced it's an SSTO. That's why I made the Pegasus reference. I see nothing that indicates the winged part (Boeing calls it a booster) is expected to achieve orbit. That's what the second stage does.
Totally guessing that what the USAF wants is a quick capability to put something light (<1000 kg) into LEO. Land, rinse, repeat.
This is kind of a bigger more expensive version of the little rocket they used to launch from an F-15 (I think that's what it was). But no people, so less safety risk.
Again, just a guess.
I'm not convinced it's an SSTO. That's why I made the Pegasus reference. I see nothing that indicates the winged part (Boeing calls it a booster) is expected to achieve orbit. That's what the second stage does.
Totally guessing that what the USAF wants is a quick capability to put something light (<1000 kg) into LEO. Land, rinse, repeat.
This is kind of a bigger more expensive version of the little rocket they used to launch from an F-15 (I think that's what it was). But no people, so less safety risk.
Again, just a guess.
Honestly the payload is delivered by the 2nd stage and so this should be considered as a two stage delivery system ?
Also as you said the glide and rentry system is it really needed, given that SpaceX has already demonstrated spectacularly many times the landing of a rocket stage on a very small foot print, instead of a lengthy runway needed for the Boeing design
You may well be right, however...I'm not sure Elon would think that was a worthwhile project for SpaceX to undertake. What does it do to advance his goal of creating a self-sustaining colony on Mars? From a technology point of view, nothing. It might generate additional revenue, which could be useful of course. But it might not generate much additional revenue. Could be more of a distraction than anything else.The reality is that DARPA could have given the $150 million to SpaceX and had them recreate the Falcon 1 with their current knowledge from F9 to pull from. SpaceX could apply their recovery technology and have the F1 booster land for reuse. The second stage could boost the small payload to orbit. I doubt it would cost SpaceX even $100 million to come up with the plans for such a thing.
IMHO the entire point to this project is to shovel more money into ULA so Sen. Shelby can get more money into his district.
Dumb question. Isn't this kind of what Virgin Galactic is doing? (I know not to orbit...)