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Bolt bests Tesla

Discussion in 'Model S' started by somnambule, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. somnambule

    somnambule Member

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    According to this article, a Bolt crashed inside a garage while the owner was 40 miles away. I believe this is a clear "win" for the Bolt as this is a level of autonomy no production Tesla has achieved so far. Every crash blamed on Teslas moving unintentionally has required a human in the car or, at least, within key fob summon range.
    Chevy Bolt EV owner claims his new car crashed on its own into his garage without anyone in it

    Joking aside, I'm not sure I buy the story. I'm guessing there's more to this than is being revealed. I find it very hard to believe that a parked vehicle would suddenly start moving and then feign innocence by putting itself back in park.
     
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  2. Lloyd

    Lloyd Well-Known Member

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    Gremlins!
     
  3. EarlyAdopter

    EarlyAdopter Active Member

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    Bolt was jealous it doesn't have Summon and was trying to impress.
     
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  4. bro1999

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    Wife and her boytoy lover "exploring the interior" together gone wrong. Most likely story.
     
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  5. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    My P100D is jealous too... :(
     
  6. kort677

    kort677 Active Member

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    no, it was russians doing more hacking
     
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    very interesting, there must be a hidden part of the story that has yet to be revealed.
     
  8. BluestarE3

    BluestarE3 Active Member

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    Let's see: car starts itself up, takes itself out of Park, rolls itself into the workbench, puts itself back into Park, and shuts itself down. Maybe the owner knocked a newspaper boy off his bicycle before he left on his trip? :)

     
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    I'd go as far as saying the car was running a diagnostic and there wasn't a proper safety layer between the diagnostic and actuation of the drive system. Unless there is some other information being withheld I'd think this is the only way the car could have moved on it's own.

    Diagnostics of the drive system are common for a resting EV in that the embedded software does a check of various systems and subsystems by powering them up and runs commands which should NOT actuate (read "must" not) with proper safety checks in place.

    However, if the system is powered up and say the drive inverter was tested and it actually sent power to the drive system and overrode PRND (Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive) setting, maybe due to an untested, validated or even non-deterministic message that wasn't handled correctly, then it could have moved itself.

    Or I could be totally wrong...
     
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  10. MarcusMaximus

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    I'm guessing it's either something along those lines or the guy/his wife accidentally crashed the car and tried to see if they could get GM to cover it.
     
  11. Ormond

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    There are several possible explanations:
    • It was hacked--perhaps by a fat guy sitting on his bed;
    • the owner is a liar;
    • It was rigged; or
    • the Bolt is totally overrated!
     
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  12. Maximapolak

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    My money is on the wife did it...
     
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  13. oktane

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    It was the (ex) wife.
     
  14. ZAKEEUS

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    Chevy's slogan is "find new roads" and the Bolt isn't gonna let silly things like walls or lack of a driver get in the way of that mission.
     
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    OMG! I just realized: Christine!
     
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    It burped.......adapting to life without gas.
     
  17. CHG-ON

    CHG-ON Still in love after all these miles

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    Cheap GM crap!:)
     
  18. CLLACAB

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    The Bolt tried to bolt.
     
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    Yeah, Tesla needs to step up their game.

    It requires a butt summons to do that with a Tesla.
     
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    My first impression was 'Ferris Bueller's day off scene where the car is on blocks in reverse, trying to rewind the extra mileage on it.
     

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