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Bought new S 75D yesterday after tesla yesterday firesale overnight -$7500

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by darker123, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. MountainRoad

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    Just pulled the trigger as well, ordered a 75D, Blue with Black NextGen Seats, Autopilot, and Pano. Normally would be $88,200. After the $7,600 adjustment and waiver of doc and transport fees, it came to $78,400!
     
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  2. MountainRoad

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    Don't want to speak for OP, but mine was an "inventory" car listed with 50 miles. The sales rep said that it was actually brand new, never been driven.
     
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    Maybe investors shouldn't have such a short term worldview then that encourages such behavior.
     
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  4. rajetta

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    Most likely it's sitting in showroom, if it's the red one with all options. They are pretty beaten up with all fit traffic!!!
    Actual demo or loaner with few hundred miles is better than these ones
     
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  5. KZKZ

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    I thought Musk said Tesla doesn't offer discounts, even to his own relatives?

    People who paid full price must feel cheated or foolish, For thinking that Tesla had firm, non-negotiable pricing.
     
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  6. wdolson

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    I saw a car much like my S90D in the inventory with a few more options for $7K less than I paid in June. It hurts a bit, but oh well.

    What I got has been very reliable with no issues thus far and who knows what the inventory cars have been through.
     
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  7. dckiwi

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    Apparently the 75D inventory I ordered today was still wrapped in plastic, never driven, 50 miles on the odometer.
     
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  8. DÆrik

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    Most inventory vehicles are brand new and were not ordered by someone else and rejected at delivery. Perhaps some are previous orders that cancelled but they are just making cars because they know they can sell them and turn orders over faster for Q3.. This is a crucial quarter for the them.

    Congrats on the car!

    Thanks Erik
     
  9. AZ Desert Driver

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    Do you think that clearing Q3 inventory, then shutting down for a few weeks in Q4 has anything to do with managing the 200,000 cars delivered?
     
  10. number12

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    Who said they are shutting down after q3 or told you how many cars are being delivered?
     
  11. hmmm

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    #31 hmmm, Sep 19, 2016
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    pssst...over here: Snagged a P90D Inventory car for $700/mnth on the new 24 month lease

    Summary:
    1) Not all inv cars are online, talk directly to an OA or you'll miss out.
    2) They are working hard to move cars before the end of the month, don't miss the window. It looks like the best deals are gone, but there seem to be a decent second wave occuring right now.
    3) ev-cpo.com just added a new column showing the discount amount for each car in the ev-cpo system (basically pulling whatever data is available on tesla.com, but see 1) above re. shadow inventory).
     
  12. Troy

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    No, because the 200,000 sales limit about federal tax credits is for USA sales only. As of today, Tesla's USA sales are 91,037 units. I added a daily counter here in last column.
     
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  14. TMSE

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    Fed tax credits do not expire after 200k car sales in USA. The quarter during which 200,000th car is sold, for that quarter and the next quarter, all cars will qualify for $7.5K tax credit. For 2 quarters after that, the credit reduces to $3.75K.

    So, essentially Tesla can sell 200,000th car in the USA, on the first day of the quarter and produce and sell like crazy for the next 4 quarters.
     
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  15. Troy

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    @TMSE, the other forum member commented about Tesla getting close to 200K global sales and I pointed out that global sales don't matter but USA sales do.

    I'm not sure why you felt like explaining how the phaseout process works. I can think of at least two reasons but I'm going to go with carelessness and just let you know that you should have first checked the link that I posted. Scroll all the way to the right when you open the page.
     
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  16. TMSE

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    I didn't imply that you didn't know. My response was also for the benefit of the person you responded to, and for general awareness.
    I don't think I am careless when I try to help. I am surprised you respond that way. But, I don't mind. Peace.
     
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  17. AZ Desert Driver

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    I did not know that US Tesla sales were only 91K. I was operating under the misinformation that they were closer to 180,000. If that was the case, then Tesla planning on shuffling the delivery to make the 200,000 happen on Jan1 (or any other beginning of quarter) made sense. I was looking at the obvious - get sales into Q3, but --why not also leverage into 200,000 delivery.

    Can you illuminate how such misinformation would be floating? Not a trivial difference between 180,000 and 90,000. Is the simple answer "USA vs whole world"?
     
  18. Troy

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    The reason Tesla is pushing for more deliveries until the end of September is because this is the last quarter they can show profitability before they need to raise more money for Model 3 tooling. All this is explained HERE in Elon's leaked email to Tesla employees.

    Something similar will happen at the end of Q4. In THIS shareholder letter in Feb 2016, Tesla said they will deliver 80-90,000 cars in 2016. In the first half of this year, Tesla delivered 29,212 cars. That means to achieve 80K they need to deliver 50,788 cars in the second half. This is going to be difficult. Therefore a similar push is expected at the end of Q4. Rumors about Autopilot 2.0 hardware certainly don't help.
     
  19. MountainRoad

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    In case others are relying on this information when making their own purchases, I want to update the number for accuracy. My total came to $78,900 (not the $78,400 I stated above). The additional $500 was for transportation. The sales guy had waived the Delivery and Doc fees, but he said that if he did so he would need to charge a $500 transportation fee to bring the car from LA to Denver.

    One thing that I found interesting was that my sales guy said that he could only waive the Delivery and Doc fees if I was able to accept delivery before the end of the month. This suggested to me that this was also part of the incentive to try to boost Tesla's Q3 profits. I'm also not sure that he would have waived those fees on any inventory car. He said that he was able to do so for two specific cars located in California and the southwest. Regardless of whether you get them to waive these fees, these do seem like some great deals on inventory cars with 75kwh batteries.

    Anyway, I hope this information is useful for others in a similar situation. This is certainly the most I've ever paid for a vehicle, so every little bit helps!
     
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  20. Out4aDuck

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    These discounts will certainly improve Q3 revenues, but I'm not sure about improving profits.
     

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