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Bumming a light. Etiquette in asking...

Discussion in 'Charging Standards and Infrastructure' started by SCW-Greg, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. SCW-Greg

    SCW-Greg Active Member

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    I think I've seen a thread on this already, but couldn't find it via search (and this is half in jest), but still curious to know about "bumming" some electricity when you're in a pinch.

    For those of you with real world Leaf, Roadster (or other EV) experience, when you're caught low in charge along the road and you need to find a place to plug in a hurry, forcing you to find the nearest AC source of any kind (i.e. no official charging stations nearby), do you...

    A) Look for an industrial building where no one might be looking and plug in to an external socket?
    B) Find a retail/commercial establishment and ask to "borrow" some juice?
    C) Find the nearest house and knock on the door?

    Another scenario, you're driving to a friend's home, or client's office, and you need to either top-off, or fully recharge before your return trip, do you...

    A) Ask to borrow their dryer port?
    B) Ask for an outside 110?
    C) Do you offer to pay them back?

    OR... option D to all the above: Not be a burden to anybody and try calling AAA for an emergency quick charge (heard they're starting to do this in some locations), or even more extreme, call for a tow-truck?



    All of this just kind of metaphorically reminds me of the situation for those who smoke and don't have a cigarette on hand, but they'll see a complete stranger taking a puff, and walk right up and ask to share a cig and a light. It can come across rude, at least from the outside looking in, but I think it's a "club" kind of thing (something you do for a buddy/junkie in need). ;)

    But this gets me to thinking about the ultra rare circumstances where this might have happened to an EV owner. How do you tactfully deal with getting some current in the wild.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. The probability of this occurring is almost 0...more often than not you will be able to find an RV park and charge there. I think the biggest inconvenience will be asking your friend for a ride to and from the RV park (while your vehicle is charging).

    110 is almost useless if you do not allow the vehicle to charge 24+ hours.
     
  3. TEG

    TEG TMC Moderator

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    Convenience stores and gas stations sometimes have vending machines plugged in outside.
     
  4. SCW-Greg

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    No, I agree 110 is just about useless, and the probably of the first scenario occurring, all but nill... hence why I'm not taking this thread too seriously. More of a hypothetical.

    But I forgot about TEG's suggestion about RV parks (got to get that ingrained as an option in my mind). I've seen that posted suggestion here before, and makes more sense than anything I put up above.
     
  5. mitch672

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    You can try one of the charging station apps, such as PlugShare, I am listed for example, with a 14-50, TT-30 and 120V 20A outlet, availble outside of my garage, it's an RV Park setup, of course I am south of Boston.

    Mitch

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  6. In my opinion this is how the hierarchy would go for finding power:

    HPC
    RV Park+ UMC
    Chargepoint/Public
    Avcon -> 14-50->UMC
    Recargo-Plugshare Stranger etc
    Ask friend to move dryer/Commercial AC Unit/Welder/Generator etc
    Tow to RV Park
    110v
     
  7. SCW-Greg

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    I like it!
     
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    Mitch, now that's a nice gesture to the community!

    A neighbor of mine had a helicopter and a helipad in his backyard (complete with underground garage - must have watched too much "Airwolf"), but he also registered his helipad with the FAA so it showed up on aviation maps, in case of an emergency landing was needed.
     
  9. NigelM

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    Plug share is good, although I did have someone once who lived locally but called and asked if she could park her Prius(!) at my house while she went shopping. :rolleyes:
     
  10. mitch672

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    Thanks Greg, when I had the new 125A subpanel put in the garage, it was a minor addition, I bought the RV Park wall mounted box for $115 + ~$15 for shipping, it was a minor additional cost compared to the trenching and cost of the #1 copper wire.. If you are so inclined:
    50, 30, 20 amp Surface Mount RV Power Outlet Box - RV Park Supplies

    Mitch
     
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    Does he have 14-50 available for everyone?
     
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    It's a good description. Some may register on Recargo or Plugshare apps and others just might verbally tell people they have a plug available for use. We early adopters are definitely helping each other out. businesses with plugs are not always so generous though. Some Nissan dealers are reportedly not happy with non-Leafs plugged in. Some business have charge places behind locked gates or garages.
     
  13. You have a J1772 at home? did you let her plug in?
     
  14. SCW-Greg

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    Got that right.

    Wondering if there is some safe way to reg your garage with the charging apps (or via forum map maybe?), but not be concerned about what negative elements/people that may attract.
     
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    You can just give a city and phone number.
     
  16. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    That's what I do on plugshare. Nobody has needed to borrow my 14-50 yet, but it is there when someone does.
     

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