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Bush is the Father of Electric Vehicle

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by vfx, May 27, 2011.

  1. vfx

    vfx Well-Known Member

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    Whatever.

    George W. Bush -- Father of the Modern Electric Car? - FoxNews.com

    This is good info.
    Anyone know how to find Bush's quote?
     
  2. Arnold Panz

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    No, because it isn't true. Bush explicitly endorsed hydrogen cells, not EVs. Now that EVs are on the verge of being game changers with respect to reducing oil dependency, Fox is trying to rewrite history, much like they tried to give credit to Bush for finding and killing bin Laden.
     
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    Wait a minute here - aren't these the same guys who mercilessly slammed Tesla Motors for taking a DoD loan created during the Bush administration? There's something disturbingly schizophrenic about all this.
     
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    #4 TEG, May 27, 2011
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    Urgh. Gritting my teeth trying to find anything someone might consider positive he said. (Floating among a seat of euphemistic rhetorical subterfuge there is probably a quote here or there that could be re-purposed in hindsight.)

    Maybe they were talking about this? :
    Has 'W' Gone Green? - VolNation
    REVE - Regulación Eólica con Vehículos Eléctricos -
    But wait, that was only a year ago after it was clear that the "tides had already turned."

    Then you have this sort of thing:

    Automakers, Bush administration push flex-fuel cars while ignoring electric vehicles

    Battery Electric Vehicles vs. Hydrogen Vehicles | EVHUB updates - B2B, B2C, Information and media ex
     
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    Don't forget the whole ending of the CARB programme happened on his watch. Don't tell me that is coincidence.
     
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    #6 vfx, May 28, 2011
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    Thanks for trying TEG. A Bush quote would carry weight with the political EV haters. (This is a job for the Daily Show.)

    The man himself may not have been an EV denier. He rode a mountain bike and his SS team had electric bikes. I would think anything that happened on his eight year watch would have been done by a Democratic congress and he just did not fight it -which I suppose could count for something.

    I'm going to paraphrase(co-opt?) that first quote to something like:

    George W. Bush even said. "
    Though I would prefer the national security angle.
     
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    Fox News articles are about as factual as The Onion articles.
     
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    Bush may not have been a proponent of electric vehicles in your opinion but the DOE loans that were made to Tesla and Nissan and the $7,500 tax credit for electric batteries in cars came from laws G W Bush signed into law.
     
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    #11 Jaff, May 28, 2011
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    Agree V...Bush was wrong to support hydrogen vehicles over EV's...but it "was what it was"...an mistake ...this does not make GWB an "anti EV guy"...just makes him wrong, like many others...

     
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    As recently as 2006, Scientific American published an article called "High Hopes for Hydrogen", where they laid out a roadmap for a transition to hydrogen powered cars. It makes a good read, even if it is all a pipe dream.

    I'm sure many of the proponents of hydrogen honestly believe in it. Lots of people drank the kool-ade. The reality is that hydrogen is extremely unlikely to reach technological or economic viability. It will do nothing to get us off fossil fuels since they are the easiest way to make hydrogen. Even if by some miracle it someday becomes viable, battery technology will already have been established, and it will be redundant.

    Bush read a script someone put in front of him. I'm sure he never gave more than a moment's thought to alternative energy sources for transportation.
     
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    Who Killed the Electric Car: Press Kit
     
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    Same might be said of AHrnold.
     
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    EV WORLD INSIDER: Bill Moore's Perspective
     
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    Didn't he buy a Tesla?
     
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    And then rumored to have returned it right away.
    (Reason given - he didn't fit in it well.)
     
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    Did return it but has a Model S on order.
     

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