Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

Buyer beware. Buying a CPO Tesla feels like a SCAM.

This site may earn commission on affiliate links.
I thought the bankruptcy rumours were short sellers fake news but this new CPO policy smacks of a company in financial trouble.

I just think this is a poorly thought of decision that they will have to revisit sooner or later. Tesla is the only company I own stock in and I don;t think they have any major issues. They will eventually get the Model 3 ramp up on track and obliterate their competition.

In the meantime they really should address this awful policy change and come up with something fair to Tesla and their customers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Electricious
I just think this is a poorly thought of decision that they will have to revisit sooner or later. Tesla is the only company I own stock in and I don;t think they have any major issues. They will eventually get the Model 3 ramp up on track and obliterate their competition.

In the meantime they really should address this awful policy change and come up with something fair to Tesla and their customers.

This is going to be such a mess for people looking to buy a Tesla as well as for the Tesla staff who now have to share acceptable photos documenting the condition of the cars and keep having to take photos as the cars endure even more wear and tear as they are used for loaners.

Whatever trust people had in the CPO cars is now gone with Tesla reusing to refurbish cars and I can't imagine any responsible person putting down a deposit for one of these cars without inspecting the car and getting a quote from Tesla to fix anything broken, torn, or damaged.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jmcdon7230
I would take it back on a busy sales day and show people what they sold you. In my experience to get Tesla to do anything you have to threaten trading standards or showing customers at a SC what crap they sold you. My local SC in Stockport Manchester Uk have been excellent to be fair but the UK referral scheme and team sucks.
 
Next day, in the sunlight, I had a better look at the car. and thats when I realized just how bad the car's condition is.
Issues:
- Headliner in TERRIBLE condition, Truly disgusting
-

Other issues:
- BT audio connectivity SUCKS ( i have had to do a soft reset a total of 9 times now in 5 weeks).
- Wheels need alignment. The autopilot blue steering wheel looks funny at an 11 o'clock position when driving in a straight line.


I would still love to be able to get my money back and give this dirt pile back.

I've had issues with Homelink, center console, and bluetooth multiple times under warranty. Insist on a new BT module under warranty.

Second, as other have said, CPO cars are loaners. Just imagine a car that's 3-5 years old THEN put in a rental fleet and used heavily. My local dealer hasn't had a loaner/CPO in months so you don't just have a loaner, you probably have one of the worst examples. Don't buy a CPO unless you've seen it in person, maybe you'll get lucky and it was just traded but otherwise you'll have lots of wear from the grind.
 
I didn't read through all pages but I'm not surprised at this. A lot of Tesla CPO cars double duty as customer loaners. So they are listed for sale at the same time being driven by customers who have their cars in for service. I don't know ANY other car company that does that. My friend's had his X in the shop for better part of the year and he's gone through 2-3 loaners because Tesla would sell his loaner and he would have to go in and swap out for another. Can you imagine buying a "CPO" car for this money while someone's beating the hell out of it simultaneously? It's crazy.
 
interesting.....

this car looks like it was some type of internal TESLA corporate salvage recovery......

it obviously had some very sloppy work done on the panoramic roof... does it still leak, creak, or rattle profusely??

the other damage looks like what can happen when a vehicle sits for an inordinate amount of time.. waiting in a dusty back lot for parts to arrive... with a nonfunctional panoramic roof.. in an open position perhaps?)...

some of the nicks and scratches are just wear and tear.. I have some on my vehicle too..

still... no reputable retailer would ever sell a vehicle like this sight unseen...
 
I didn't read through the entire history, but how in the world did you accept it in that condition?? It's absolutely on Tesla to make things right, but I can't imagine during the inspection process not finding most of those things. Some would get away (I had a few that I found the next couple of days, myself) but are you saying that you accepted delivery as-is without documenting any of those issues during the delivery inspection?

My CPO experience was almost the exact opposite of what you described. I hope that they can resolve the issues for you. They should have caught those things before the delivery inspection and corrected them beforehand. That service center is definitely dropping the ball.
 
I didn't read through all pages but I'm not surprised at this. A lot of Tesla CPO cars double duty as customer loaners. So they are listed for sale at the same time being driven by customers who have their cars in for service. I don't know ANY other car company that does that. My friend's had his X in the shop for better part of the year and he's gone through 2-3 loaners because Tesla would sell his loaner and he would have to go in and swap out for another. Can you imagine buying a "CPO" car for this money while someone's beating the hell out of it simultaneously? It's crazy.

Tesla's solution for the damage caused by using these cars as loaners is to get people who buy used cars to now pay for all that damage while people beat the hell out of them as loaners. It IS crazy.
 
Ill try to keep this short and to the point. I'll also keep names out of it as I really do not intend to cause anyone any harm.

First of all, I love Tesla. An amazing company that makes a kick ass car led by a true visionary.
For most of the past 10 years i've been driving different BMW's as they provide the best driving experience in my opinion -- that was until I drove a model S.

So, I spoke with a sales person at Tesla. We went over options and available CPO's.
Overall a very helpful and accommodating person.
KEY POINT:
me: I never bought a car that I haven't seen in real life, or taken out for a test drive. What guarantee is there that the car is in good shape.
him: All of our CPO cars go through the rigorous Tesla certification process and have passed the Tesla quality standards in terms of esthetics and function.

This was enough of an explanation for me. it made sense. If its good enough for Tesla, its sure as hell good enough for me.

So, I bought a sexy white MS85D with 40K miles. All i saw was a photo of the car in what looked like a tesla workshop of some sort. I was referred to the nearest service center to my location (4 hours away) who were supposed to handle the delivery

Theres a bit of a mini-fiasco story with the delivery but lets skip that to keep this post on point. All i'll say is that after the papers were signed via overnight fedex back and forth (and people were super nice and friendly too) it felt like they forgot about me and sounded very annoyed every time I called to ask about when the car is getting delivered. Apparently it was being delayed because of the necessary detailing that had to be done.


Delivery:
delivery was in the late afternoon on a dark and gloomy day.
Took the car, signed the papers. Truck left.
I immediately call to ask about the cleanliness of the car. I was told that as a CPO it is within the Tesla standards.

Next day, in the sunlight, I had a better look at the car. and thats when I realized just how bad the car's condition is.
Issues:
- Headliner in TERRIBLE condition, Truly disgusting
- Steering wheel leather has what appears to be permanent damage. Maybe its just
- Blemish / paint chip on the front of the hood
- Leather seats have dark streaks of what looks like oil / grease stains
- Dirt and gravel pretty much everywhere.
- The rear trunk center storage compartment (requires lifting the trunk floor) has dirt and gravel, some weird clothing item, and most revoltingly a dental hygiene tool (an interdental floss -- is it used?? I hate to even consider the thought)
- Headliner is peeling and coming off in a couple of areas
- Center console has 2 deep gouges in it.

Other issues:
- BT audio connectivity SUCKS ( i have had to do a soft reset a total of 9 times now in 5 weeks).
- Wheels need alignment. The autopilot blue steering wheel looks funny at an 11 o'clock position when driving in a straight line.

Obviously I called and raised hell with the service dept. Sent them the photos. they apologize and say "let me see what I can do and ill call you back."
No call back, so I call next day. " Whats the update?"
"We are still looking into it, give me until the end of the day."
Car was delivered Monday. By Friday absolutely nothing was done. Each and every day I was told "I'll get right back to you with a way to correct this."
So, I call and tell them that ill take it to a local Auto detail specialist and get it cleaned up. Detail guy says headliner is beyond repair.
I call back and give the service team the update on Saturday. Service guy says "ok, we will have to send a truck to pick it up and bring it here. We will provide a loaner while we work on your car. Let me call you monday when my manager gets here to get it set up for you."
Monday comes. Nothing. Late afternoon I call the sales guy I bought the car from. "Hello -- Here's he deal, if this car was in a dealership there is no way in hell i would have bought it. I trusted you and the company when you said it is within the Tesla quality standards being a CPO car. whats the return policy on the car? and don't worry, i'll purchase another CPO, I just don't want this one"
"There is no return policy. The car is in good shape. Just cause you don't like it, does not mean you can return it."
"i'll send you the pictures, then lets talk about the Tesla quality standards"

I sent the pics, with a written request to return the car and to have my money back.
this was 4 weeks ago. I have sent him maybe 4-5 other emails and called about 4-5 as well. Have not heard back from Mr. Sales guy.

The service team eventually got back Tuesday. "We are working on the details on the loaner give us a couple of days."
I call Friday "no movement yet. Please be patient"
Another week goes by with absolutely nothing happening. Dodging my phone calls, everyone is in a meeting, and people are getting sick all of a sudden. I called Tesla headquarters in CA. they say all they can do is have the service center in charge of the car handle the problem. But, they will send it over to the escalations department. they recommended I speak with the manager in the service department but refuse to say his name.


On a Monday I get in touch with the manager. Super rude individual.
verbatim : "We are not sending a truck to pick your car up -- it is too expensive."
My reply was : "you know whats too expensive? paying $70K for a car with black and brown grease marks all over, a peeling headliner, and dental hygiene products in the trunk."
He insists that its too expensive to send a truck to pickup the car and provide a loaner. He said the best he can do is fix it in a Tesla approved body shop, and order the parts necessary and have it sent there. And they will arrange for a Luxury rental from Enterprise.
I explain to him that if the repairs take a month, and I have already been dealing with a month, then I will have paid for a car that I am completely unhappy with for 2 months -- thats not cool. And who wants to pay for a Tesla and then drive a car with an ICE and have to put gas and stuff..??
All he could do is send the mobile unit to fix the issues, scheduled on Friday, which will be 25 days from delivery.

Mobile unit gets here, the poor guy is shocked. He takes photos, all the while shaking his head. Says there is no way this can be done in the field. Recommends the car be sent back. this was 10 days ago.

Despite the recommendation from the mobile unit, it took the service team a whole week to give me straight answer about sending a loaner and picking my car up.
this is supposed to happen by Saturday. It will be almost 6 weeks from delivery.


I don't know what to think about the whole thing. But I will definitely never buy CPO from Tesla again, and quite frankly I am questioning whether I should ever buy another Tesla at all.
For $70K I would have bought a very nice beamer, and would have received excellent customer service from a very reputable auto maker.
I paid $70K for a car that, and lets all be honest with each other here, is severely lacking on the inside. But, we are all ok with it because it drives amazing, and we all buy into the company and its mission as a whole. For me though, this touchy feely crap only goes a certain distance. Once I started getting treated like dirt, and spent my commutes alongside a lot of dirt, reality set in that I've been conned.

I would still love to be able to get my money back and give this dirt pile back.

Toothslayer:

I feel your pain. BTDT. I was in love when I bought my Model S 2.5 years ago with a 3 year lease. But, I got so disgusted with the constant problems, poor service, replacement parts taking months that I dumped the car recently, and went back to buying CPO Mercedes. I've bought a number of CPO Mercedes over the years and unlike your experience, except for the miles showing on the odometer, they were showroom perfect both mechanically and cosmetically when delivered.

Except for this last one where my wife noticed a dirty area on one of the seats that I hadn't even spotted. I called the dealership, they said "no problem" and had a driver travel the 55 miles to my house with a new E class loaner car, took my car back and 2 days later brought my car back, having taken car of the noted area, vacuumed the interior and washed the exterior for me.

When I first had my Tesla I told people that I loved the driving experience mainly due to the torque of the electric motors, instant throttle response along with Autopilot and smart cruise control. Then all the problems started and I slowly began to realize that the things I loved about the car, Tesla had nothing to do with because what I loved about the electric drive experience were characteristics inherent to electric motors, and the auto pilot and smart cruise control was the product of an Israeli company who licenses the same technology to whatever car company that wants to buy it. So, none of what I loved had anything to do with Tesla.

But, all the problems and issues I was having were directly due to Tesla, so that's why I dumped it.

If they don't man up and do the right thing by you, I think it's time to get an attorney and sue for the price of the car and attorney fees. The evidence you have is overwhelming. I went back to Mercedes and I suspect you'll go back to BMW. They know how to run a car company and treat people buying high end cars. Tesla doesn't give a hoot. I could stronger language, but I won't.

Good luck.
 
Ill try to keep this short and to the point. I'll also keep names out of it as I really do not intend to cause anyone any harm.

First of all, I love Tesla. An amazing company that makes a kick ass car led by a true visionary.
For most of the past 10 years i've been driving different BMW's as they provide the best driving experience in my opinion -- that was until I drove a model S.

So, I spoke with a sales person at Tesla. We went over options and available CPO's.
Overall a very helpful and accommodating person.
KEY POINT:
me: I never bought a car that I haven't seen in real life, or taken out for a test drive. What guarantee is there that the car is in good shape.
him: All of our CPO cars go through the rigorous Tesla certification process and have passed the Tesla quality standards in terms of esthetics and function.

This was enough of an explanation for me. it made sense. If its good enough for Tesla, its sure as hell good enough for me.

So, I bought a sexy white MS85D with 40K miles. All i saw was a photo of the car in what looked like a tesla workshop of some sort. I was referred to the nearest service center to my location (4 hours away) who were supposed to handle the delivery

Theres a bit of a mini-fiasco story with the delivery but lets skip that to keep this post on point. All i'll say is that after the papers were signed via overnight fedex back and forth (and people were super nice and friendly too) it felt like they forgot about me and sounded very annoyed every time I called to ask about when the car is getting delivered. Apparently it was being delayed because of the necessary detailing that had to be done.


Delivery:
delivery was in the late afternoon on a dark and gloomy day.
Took the car, signed the papers. Truck left.
I immediately call to ask about the cleanliness of the car. I was told that as a CPO it is within the Tesla standards.

Next day, in the sunlight, I had a better look at the car. and thats when I realized just how bad the car's condition is.
Issues:
- Headliner in TERRIBLE condition, Truly disgusting
- Steering wheel leather has what appears to be permanent damage. Maybe its just
- Blemish / paint chip on the front of the hood
- Leather seats have dark streaks of what looks like oil / grease stains
- Dirt and gravel pretty much everywhere.
- The rear trunk center storage compartment (requires lifting the trunk floor) has dirt and gravel, some weird clothing item, and most revoltingly a dental hygiene tool (an interdental floss -- is it used?? I hate to even consider the thought)
- Headliner is peeling and coming off in a couple of areas
- Center console has 2 deep gouges in it.

Other issues:
- BT audio connectivity SUCKS ( i have had to do a soft reset a total of 9 times now in 5 weeks).
- Wheels need alignment. The autopilot blue steering wheel looks funny at an 11 o'clock position when driving in a straight line.

Obviously I called and raised hell with the service dept. Sent them the photos. they apologize and say "let me see what I can do and ill call you back."
No call back, so I call next day. " Whats the update?"
"We are still looking into it, give me until the end of the day."
Car was delivered Monday. By Friday absolutely nothing was done. Each and every day I was told "I'll get right back to you with a way to correct this."
So, I call and tell them that ill take it to a local Auto detail specialist and get it cleaned up. Detail guy says headliner is beyond repair.
I call back and give the service team the update on Saturday. Service guy says "ok, we will have to send a truck to pick it up and bring it here. We will provide a loaner while we work on your car. Let me call you monday when my manager gets here to get it set up for you."
Monday comes. Nothing. Late afternoon I call the sales guy I bought the car from. "Hello -- Here's he deal, if this car was in a dealership there is no way in hell i would have bought it. I trusted you and the company when you said it is within the Tesla quality standards being a CPO car. whats the return policy on the car? and don't worry, i'll purchase another CPO, I just don't want this one"
"There is no return policy. The car is in good shape. Just cause you don't like it, does not mean you can return it."
"i'll send you the pictures, then lets talk about the Tesla quality standards"

I sent the pics, with a written request to return the car and to have my money back.
this was 4 weeks ago. I have sent him maybe 4-5 other emails and called about 4-5 as well. Have not heard back from Mr. Sales guy.

The service team eventually got back Tuesday. "We are working on the details on the loaner give us a couple of days."
I call Friday "no movement yet. Please be patient"
Another week goes by with absolutely nothing happening. Dodging my phone calls, everyone is in a meeting, and people are getting sick all of a sudden. I called Tesla headquarters in CA. they say all they can do is have the service center in charge of the car handle the problem. But, they will send it over to the escalations department. they recommended I speak with the manager in the service department but refuse to say his name.


On a Monday I get in touch with the manager. Super rude individual.
verbatim : "We are not sending a truck to pick your car up -- it is too expensive."
My reply was : "you know whats too expensive? paying $70K for a car with black and brown grease marks all over, a peeling headliner, and dental hygiene products in the trunk."
He insists that its too expensive to send a truck to pickup the car and provide a loaner. He said the best he can do is fix it in a Tesla approved body shop, and order the parts necessary and have it sent there. And they will arrange for a Luxury rental from Enterprise.
I explain to him that if the repairs take a month, and I have already been dealing with a month, then I will have paid for a car that I am completely unhappy with for 2 months -- thats not cool. And who wants to pay for a Tesla and then drive a car with an ICE and have to put gas and stuff..??
All he could do is send the mobile unit to fix the issues, scheduled on Friday, which will be 25 days from delivery.

Mobile unit gets here, the poor guy is shocked. He takes photos, all the while shaking his head. Says there is no way this can be done in the field. Recommends the car be sent back. this was 10 days ago.

Despite the recommendation from the mobile unit, it took the service team a whole week to give me straight answer about sending a loaner and picking my car up.
this is supposed to happen by Saturday. It will be almost 6 weeks from delivery.


I don't know what to think about the whole thing. But I will definitely never buy CPO from Tesla again, and quite frankly I am questioning whether I should ever buy another Tesla at all.
For $70K I would have bought a very nice beamer, and would have received excellent customer service from a very reputable auto maker.
I paid $70K for a car that, and lets all be honest with each other here, is severely lacking on the inside. But, we are all ok with it because it drives amazing, and we all buy into the company and its mission as a whole. For me though, this touchy feely crap only goes a certain distance. Once I started getting treated like dirt, and spent my commutes alongside a lot of dirt, reality set in that I've been conned.

I would still love to be able to get my money back and give this dirt pile back.


Wow. First of all I AGREE Tesla CPO IS A SCAM. For different reasons and potentially much worse. See this video:

Secondly, after I put my deposit down, it took them 30 Days to complete an “inspection of the vehicle” I still haven’t got the car yet, but I’ll get to that later.

From day one, communication from the team where the car is physically located has been 0. They don’t reply. The person located at my “local” (3 hours away) Tesla location who was my main point of contact, does reply, but is slow at it at best. Sometimes multiple days go by, and they make up stories about my paperwork being in the mail, but it wasn’t even sent out til I reached out again. And for some reason every week, they’re on vacacation for a day of the week randomly or left the office early. Seems that nobody at Tesla wants to work or has a real work ethic. (This is speaking to sales, not service). I am having my car shipped on my own, because I refuse to pay Tesla thousands to do it. I had a simple request of them dropping off the car at the shipper (5 miles away), and they won’t do it. Every other dealer would be happy to oblige. I asked if they can mail me the second key and portable charger. They said no it will have to stay with the car (even though I would pay for having it mailed to me).

Their salespeople quality of service has been horrible. When spending $50,000 on a car, historically luxury dealerships bend over backwards within reason, but not Tesla. Eventually if they keep this up, it will catch up to them.

I have yet to receive my car, but when I do, if it’s misrepresented in any way, I’m going to lose my s*** and won’t let Tesla slide. I’ll make them fix every issue should their be any. They took 30 f*****g Days to inspect the car and it better be perfect (within reason of how a CPO can be).
 
Unbelievable.

It's a good thing I have not decided to follow through with our 2 M3 invite yet.
Time to cancel.

Our family had two Model 3 reservations. Both received configure emails. One was cancelled at the time of the Alcantara switch. Tesla was told it was not because of the material but because of the way that the change was handled and they needed to improve their communication with customers.

The second family member was also upset but stayed with their reservation waiting for the model they wanted. This may be the nail in the coffin for the reservation too. We are also in New York and 3+ hours from a service center.
 
Ill try to keep this short and to the point. I'll also keep names out of it as I really do not intend to cause anyone any harm.

First of all, I love Tesla. An amazing company that makes a kick ass car led by a true visionary.
For most of the past 10 years i've been driving different BMW's as they provide the best driving experience in my opinion -- that was until I drove a model S.

So, I spoke with a sales person at Tesla. We went over options and available CPO's.
Overall a very helpful and accommodating person.
KEY POINT:
me: I never bought a car that I haven't seen in real life, or taken out for a test drive. What guarantee is there that the car is in good shape.
him: All of our CPO cars go through the rigorous Tesla certification process and have passed the Tesla quality standards in terms of esthetics and function.

This was enough of an explanation for me. it made sense. If its good enough for Tesla, its sure as hell good enough for me.

So, I bought a sexy white MS85D with 40K miles. All i saw was a photo of the car in what looked like a tesla workshop of some sort. I was referred to the nearest service center to my location (4 hours away) who were supposed to handle the delivery

Theres a bit of a mini-fiasco story with the delivery but lets skip that to keep this post on point. All i'll say is that after the papers were signed via overnight fedex back and forth (and people were super nice and friendly too) it felt like they forgot about me and sounded very annoyed every time I called to ask about when the car is getting delivered. Apparently it was being delayed because of the necessary detailing that had to be done.


Delivery:
delivery was in the late afternoon on a dark and gloomy day.
Took the car, signed the papers. Truck left.
I immediately call to ask about the cleanliness of the car. I was told that as a CPO it is within the Tesla standards.

Next day, in the sunlight, I had a better look at the car. and thats when I realized just how bad the car's condition is.
Issues:
- Headliner in TERRIBLE condition, Truly disgusting
- Steering wheel leather has what appears to be permanent damage. Maybe its just
- Blemish / paint chip on the front of the hood
- Leather seats have dark streaks of what looks like oil / grease stains
- Dirt and gravel pretty much everywhere.
- The rear trunk center storage compartment (requires lifting the trunk floor) has dirt and gravel, some weird clothing item, and most revoltingly a dental hygiene tool (an interdental floss -- is it used?? I hate to even consider the thought)
- Headliner is peeling and coming off in a couple of areas
- Center console has 2 deep gouges in it.

Other issues:
- BT audio connectivity SUCKS ( i have had to do a soft reset a total of 9 times now in 5 weeks).
- Wheels need alignment. The autopilot blue steering wheel looks funny at an 11 o'clock position when driving in a straight line.

Obviously I called and raised hell with the service dept. Sent them the photos. they apologize and say "let me see what I can do and ill call you back."
No call back, so I call next day. " Whats the update?"
"We are still looking into it, give me until the end of the day."
Car was delivered Monday. By Friday absolutely nothing was done. Each and every day I was told "I'll get right back to you with a way to correct this."
So, I call and tell them that ill take it to a local Auto detail specialist and get it cleaned up. Detail guy says headliner is beyond repair.
I call back and give the service team the update on Saturday. Service guy says "ok, we will have to send a truck to pick it up and bring it here. We will provide a loaner while we work on your car. Let me call you monday when my manager gets here to get it set up for you."
Monday comes. Nothing. Late afternoon I call the sales guy I bought the car from. "Hello -- Here's he deal, if this car was in a dealership there is no way in hell i would have bought it. I trusted you and the company when you said it is within the Tesla quality standards being a CPO car. whats the return policy on the car? and don't worry, i'll purchase another CPO, I just don't want this one"
"There is no return policy. The car is in good shape. Just cause you don't like it, does not mean you can return it."
"i'll send you the pictures, then lets talk about the Tesla quality standards"

I sent the pics, with a written request to return the car and to have my money back.
this was 4 weeks ago. I have sent him maybe 4-5 other emails and called about 4-5 as well. Have not heard back from Mr. Sales guy.

The service team eventually got back Tuesday. "We are working on the details on the loaner give us a couple of days."
I call Friday "no movement yet. Please be patient"
Another week goes by with absolutely nothing happening. Dodging my phone calls, everyone is in a meeting, and people are getting sick all of a sudden. I called Tesla headquarters in CA. they say all they can do is have the service center in charge of the car handle the problem. But, they will send it over to the escalations department. they recommended I speak with the manager in the service department but refuse to say his name.


On a Monday I get in touch with the manager. Super rude individual.
verbatim : "We are not sending a truck to pick your car up -- it is too expensive."
My reply was : "you know whats too expensive? paying $70K for a car with black and brown grease marks all over, a peeling headliner, and dental hygiene products in the trunk."
He insists that its too expensive to send a truck to pickup the car and provide a loaner. He said the best he can do is fix it in a Tesla approved body shop, and order the parts necessary and have it sent there. And they will arrange for a Luxury rental from Enterprise.
I explain to him that if the repairs take a month, and I have already been dealing with a month, then I will have paid for a car that I am completely unhappy with for 2 months -- thats not cool. And who wants to pay for a Tesla and then drive a car with an ICE and have to put gas and stuff..??
All he could do is send the mobile unit to fix the issues, scheduled on Friday, which will be 25 days from delivery.

Mobile unit gets here, the poor guy is shocked. He takes photos, all the while shaking his head. Says there is no way this can be done in the field. Recommends the car be sent back. this was 10 days ago.

Despite the recommendation from the mobile unit, it took the service team a whole week to give me straight answer about sending a loaner and picking my car up.
this is supposed to happen by Saturday. It will be almost 6 weeks from delivery.


I don't know what to think about the whole thing. But I will definitely never buy CPO from Tesla again, and quite frankly I am questioning whether I should ever buy another Tesla at all.
For $70K I would have bought a very nice beamer, and would have received excellent customer service from a very reputable auto maker.
I paid $70K for a car that, and lets all be honest with each other here, is severely lacking on the inside. But, we are all ok with it because it drives amazing, and we all buy into the company and its mission as a whole. For me though, this touchy feely crap only goes a certain distance. Once I started getting treated like dirt, and spent my commutes alongside a lot of dirt, reality set in that I've been conned.

I would still love to be able to get my money back and give this dirt pile back.

So sorry to hear about your bad experience. Personally, I would name names so that people who were truly responsible would be held accountable for their actions. I'm sure there are more good than bad people at Tesla. I would target those who gave me the heartburn so it would not happen again (I hope). If you bought your car on credit, your bank or finance company may be able to help you return and/or exchange the car.
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: DCEV
This is what I find the most distressing. That someone could not care less to even clean up the car before delivery and when the matter was brought to their attention, they essentially ignored the customer for weeks.

We've bought many cars from dealers in the past new and used and the CPO cars we've bought have all been delivered in almost like new condition. It just shows respect for the customer buying the car and makes a big difference when you drive home a car that is clean and in good condition.

I feel sorry for the OP because the excitement of buying a $70K car has been ruined because someone could not care less. When he brought the matter to their attention, they should have fixed this immediately. Instead now they'll have to fix the issue and deal with all the negative publicity that tarnishes the CPO Program.

No one comes ahead here. It's bad for the customer and bad for Tesla. Easily avoidable if someone just cared.

Does Tesla not have someone to take ownership of and run the CPO program?

I'm with you. All I buy is CPO now.

I bought a "new" car once. It was wonderful... until within three years everything was breaking on it. I'll never buy another Chevy.

I buy from reputable dealers and quality auto manufacturers. Mechanically they are full warranty, cosmetically, they are clean and nearly perfect. The last CPO I bought the delivery guy walked it with me, and pointed at things I didn't even notice, like a minuscule scratch on the console. Plus they made me sign an acknowledgment that they had repainted the bumper.

Recently I had a problem with another automaker dealer. I ended up writing to the corporate office to address it. They were amazingly prompt about following up with me. Nothing like the "ignore the irate customer" attitude ToothSlayer (and others) experienced. Plus, I can simply go to another service shop and get better service, because they are competing.

Tesla just seems to be a "hit or miss" venture. And I'm seeing a lot of "miss" complaints posted on the forum.

I keep saying Tesla doesn't yet know how to be a car company. And eventually they will run out of blind followers who try to justify these bad experiences because the company is "revolutionary". And they will have burned enough discriminating customers, there won't be anyone left to sell to.

And I imagine many of the more pragmatic posters who say "Sorry to hear that, my experience was wonderful" will eventually not want to take the risk with their $70,000 when they are ready to buy again. I know I'm not planning on a newer model, since I'm getting that same "ignore the irate guy" about my Roadster.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Electricious
Wow. Have not read all of the replies but the ones I have are the opposite of my CPO Model S experience. I cannot say enough about the SC, especially since the new leadership took over a year or so ago. My CPO had 48k miles on it. It was delivered spotlessly - the only 2 flaws that I saw were a minor paint scratch on the trunk lid and wear on the driver's side pillar, which Tesla replaced at the first 12.5k service. I owned Mercedes E's and an SL for some 20 years and could not be more pleased to no longer have the high repair/maintenance costs, including rusty body parts, and premium gas.

As mentioned earlier, it would make sense to escalate your situation to executive level. Good luck!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Guy V
The lease on my P90D terminates in November. This and other posts makes me worry that Tesla is so overwhelmed with Model 3 issues that other aspects of the company are suffering. It's difficult for me to consider going back to BMW, but I'll wait and see if things improve before deciding.

Re certified pre-owned, a family member purchased a certified pre-owned Honda Civic for his daughter a couple of years ago, It was immaculate and had no post-purchase issues.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Guy V
Yeah that seems like a VERY bad experience. But completely opposite to mine. I bought my used S P85 and couldn’t have had a smoother transaction. They even stayed late at the pick up center to give me my car, because I didn’t get out of my office until after they were closed. The car has been nothing short of a dream.

The fact that yours was given to you in such a poor state of cleanliness (old clothes and a dental tool??? Gross!!) tells me that center is probably just filled with lazy people that don’t want to do their job. Man that really sucks because they’re an outlier but are making the company look REALLY bad. That’s the worst I’ve ever heard by a WIIIIIIIDE margin. I’ll call another service center, maybe even in another city and tell them about what happened. Maybe they can do something for you?
 
Dear OP, I read all the posts on your problem and I really feel for your pain.

Personally, I would have gone ballistic when the rude Service Manager refused to send the truck to pick it up, I would have gotten in the car which was drive-able and drove to that Service Center and dropped the key, called Enterprise to get picked up and driven the rental home.

It sounds like the person at Tesla that made ALL of the mistakes after your delivery was the Service Center Manager. In the Tesla business model he is THE decision maker in all things post delivery.
Sounds like yours was the worst I have ever heard of!!!

As to the CPO purchase/Delivery fiasco: please do not judge Tesla by this poor experience. Tesla Sales Model is supposed to sell brand new, custom built cars from the factory using a production to sales computer system.

There is no Sales Force, at least it seems there is no trained, experienced sales force. All of my dealings in trying to trade in my 1 year old Model X for a more powerful 100D brought me to people who sounded and acted like ICE used car salesmen, both the guy selling the CPO and the guy offering peanuts in exchange for my trade-in.

Trust Me, I can spot a trained Used Car Salesman in less than 2 sentences out of his mouth.

I suspect strongly that your sales guy was a commission contractor; NOT A TESLA EMPLOYEE.

All the Service personnel you met, report to that service manager: so their failures (including not returning calls) are all due to dealing with/thru that manager. AND btw... the escalation path for problem emails goes to that Service Manager first and he or his regional service manager makes the decision to get any executive involved.

As far as I can tell, Twitter is the only way to get to Elon Musk.

Good Luck.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Guy V