I ran it through the Esper machine (my squinted eyes and Captcha trained gray matter network) and came up with this:
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CA AB 475 Allow ticketing of vehicles not connected to chargers
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W.Petefish
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W.Petefish
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Now that this is the law in California, are people still using the charge protocol card to tell others when it would be ok to unplug their car?
Has anyone come back to their car to find it was unplugged? Or unplugged and towed?
Have the authorities made any statements on how strictly they will enforce this?
I my car was towed because someone unplugged it to charge their EV, with or without my permission, and I tried to sue for damages, would I have a case?
GSP
Has anyone come back to their car to find it was unplugged? Or unplugged and towed?
Have the authorities made any statements on how strictly they will enforce this?
I my car was towed because someone unplugged it to charge their EV, with or without my permission, and I tried to sue for damages, would I have a case?
GSP
My expectation would be that they would ticket/tow gas cars in an EV space but not EVs or plug-ins. However, that might depend upon whether this is viewed as a revenue generator--in which case they would ticket anything--or just enforcing common courtesy.
NigelM
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Parking on a charging station spot w/out using the charge station an offence in Tampa
Tampa made a recent change in their parking statutes as follows:
Tampa made a recent change in their parking statutes as follows:
Chevy Volt can set off the alarm if someone unplugs the J1772. Even if you see a Volt done charging, and/or if the EVSE says it isn't charging, it isn't friendly to take the cable and plug it into another vehicle that needs a charge.
(Found this out the hard way...)
(Found this out the hard way...)
That's a mixed blessing, Nigel. It kills plug-sharing (one charger serving 2-4 spaces).
NigelM
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I know. I raised the point with the Mayor of St Petersburg this morning. His view was that Parking Enforcement would be trained (sensible enough?) to only check that an EV was parked at a charge station and would see if the car next to it was using the station. I guess Parking Enforcement is suddenly going to start learning about makes and models of cars.
Larry and I talked about this and we're getting together to put the issue in writing.....we could then use the reply in any eventual ticketing dispute.
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Hi Nigel,
Do you think that dubious local regulations like these are something that Plug In America would be willing to assist us in attempting to influence local governments?
Larry
2012 Volt owners can disable this alarm if they wish. Did the Volt owner get ticketed or towed after you removed the EVSE cable to charge your car?
It seems that under California law, you have done nothing wrong (he was done charging after all), but he is now liable due to your action. Doesn't seem like a valid law to me.
GSP
NigelM
Recovering Member
Drum-roll please......
Florida House Bill relating to energy, H.B. 7117, was officially adopted into law on April 16th but at present, a simple online summary has yet to be established. Some portions relate to EV's and parking so..... effective July 1, 2012:
Kudos to Larry for following up and finding this......
Florida House Bill relating to energy, H.B. 7117, was officially adopted into law on April 16th but at present, a simple online summary has yet to be established. Some portions relate to EV's and parking so..... effective July 1, 2012:
Kudos to Larry for following up and finding this......
NigelM
Recovering Member
That's how it reads. We'll rely upon the goodwill of EV drivers not to abuse it though.
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