RayK
Active Member
Sounds exactly like the driver ed I received in '73 at Mountain View High; the one that used to be on Castro Street and not the former Awalt High.
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CA DMV failing Tesla car for behind the wheel drive test
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how about all the millions of drivers that take their test in an automatic and then go out on public roads and try to drive a stick shift, incredibly dangerous and frankly bizarre that it's allowed. In UK if you take a test on an automatic, you can only drive automatic. Changing gear in a manual car is far harder and more dangerous, than getting used to a slightly different braking system.
There are probably very few people who attempt to drive a stick that dont know how to drive one, at this point. its definitely a dying thing.
The only times I have seen someone who does not know how to drive a stick trying to drive a stick shift was on Amazing Race! I guess it could happen if you rented a car in Europe and they only have stick shift available...
That’s true, though there are a few that do want to learn. A few years ago, my daughter got her license and really wanted to learn, but the only car I had with a manual transmission was my old Ferrari. What else could I do:
RayK
Active Member
Both daughters, when they were just learning to drive, wanted to practice driving in my BMW 323i 5-speed. I told them it was going to be hard enough remembering the rules-of-the-road and paying strict attention to what's going on on the other side of the windows, than to try to develop the dexterity with the clutch, gas, brake and stick shift at the same time. I wanted them to be totally comfortable with driving around in traffic, for it to be second nature, before I let them drive my car. It's how I was taught.
Fortunately living here in suburban San Jose we don't have too many of the steep hills like say in San Francisco. But we do have metered freeway on ramps, where often it's one of the "cloverleafs" or it's a straight road but with an incline. If you're not familiar with the concept, it's a stop light at the end of the on ramp, just before you get onto the freeway. Most operate only during commute hours (AM and PM) and are usually signed saying one car through for each green light. It's done to prevent a mass of cars trying to get onto an already crowded freeway. Some people don't leave much room between their front bumper and the car ahead; i.e. tailgating. Either they are Type A personalities or they don't think about what's going on around them (busy checking their phone or actually talking or texting on it). Tailgating is especially problematic if they do this to a novice driver with a stick on a hill.
It turned out that both daughters lost interest in driving my BMW soon after they got their license. I did have them drive my car a couple of times around the neighborhood just for exposure to the experience. We did it late at night with minimal traffic on the streets. They picked it up fairly quickly but stalls and gnashing gears was the norm at first.
Pkmmte
Le meow
I’d love to see someone take their DMV exam in a new Model S with the Yoke steering wheel and no stalks!
My wife took her exam in my Model 3 when turned 18 and the instructor had no problem with it. They did ask to clarify some things like the parking brake, but it was perfectly fine overall.
My wife took her exam in my Model 3 when turned 18 and the instructor had no problem with it. They did ask to clarify some things like the parking brake, but it was perfectly fine overall.
Wait, what? Your wife took her exam in your 3 when she turned 18?
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
My daughter drives, and passed the driver's test in a Honda Accord Hybrid, which also has regenerative braking. Regen braking argument is really stupid considering the number of cars that use it now. And the hold at stop function works on many ICE cars such as BMW for example.
Pkmmte
Le meow
Yes, and the DMV had no problem with her using full regen. The instructor also asked about things like the glove box and locks being operated from the screen. This was back the Model 3 was relatively new to the streets.
We got married shortly after her turning 18, not before, in case my wording was confusing…
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RichAZ/CapeCod
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Maybe you and OP went to the same DMV! Either the guy just fails all the Tesla before you even take the test, or if the braking is too rough, he will intervene. And anytime an examiner has to intervene for any reason, it is an automictic fail. And if you try to tell him that you have no control over the "roughness" of the braking because it is regen braking, then he will just fail you for "automated tech used".
Question really is, if you turn on creep, would that be good enough? With creep you don't really have to charge to 100% to turn off regen braking. The full regen braking with creep on is actually like a trained driver braking smoothly and then at the end you just need to ease on to the brake for the complete stop.
Tam
Well-Known Member
I think creep is only effective at a very slow speed like under 5 MPH. Anything speed higher than that, the regen still kicks in to drastically slow the car down until a very slow speed of creep.
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