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Cadillac ELR (Converj)

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by Takumi, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. TEG

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    Cadillac Converj concept

    Volt mechanicals, Cadillac body.

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    'Coupe De Volt'
     
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    Interesting... I suppose I should have expected a Cadillac version of the Volt, but it had not occurred to me. I wonder what the price premium will be?
     
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    I have never owned a Cadillac, and don't consider myself a "Cadillac man", but that is fairly cool looking I think. (Or maybe I am just getting old)
     
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    Bob Lutz says it will cost "about two Volts."

    I think they'll have to upgrade the battery pack. People who buy a car that looks like that will punch it at every opportunity. Then they'll wonder where their 40 all-electric miles went. Shades of Jeremy Clarkson.

    I like it too. [Walter Brennan]Now where did you young whippersnappers put my eatin' teeth?[/Walter Brennan]
     
  7. doug

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    Woah... a Walter Brennan reference. I get it, but I wouldn't expect the other young whippersnappers to.

    Yeah, I agree about more battery capacity. Do we know the cost of their batteries? A few extra kWh's, even if people don't use it often, would help consumers swallow the price differential.
     
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    #10 stopcrazypp, Apr 17, 2009
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    I remember they made a rebuttal to the claim that they are $1000/kWh by saying they are many hundreds less per kWh.

    Our Real-World Learnings Differ From CMU Study | GM FastLane

    Taking Elon's claim of a $36k replacement cost for the 53kWh pack in the Roadster puts the Roadster battery price (not necessarily the same as cost for Tesla) at $680/kWh.
     
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    Kokam who have a good, energy-dense cell and decent cycle life are saying theirs are now $850/kWh but expects to get below $500.
     
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    This was always the direct competitor to the Fisker Karma, If GM can pull it off, then that would damage the karma far worse than the Model S ever could.

    GM already has the Volt at a 0-60 time of 8.5 seconds, shave off another .6 second in ev mode and it matches the Karma exactly. Get 5.6 in "sport mode" which is easily achievable (the karma uses a GM engine). I'm betting GM can do it and with less weight.
     
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    And less noise. They also have the more efficient drivetrain.
     
  16. ljbad4life

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    did we forget.....almost 50k cheaper!
     
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    Despite some folks making guesses, we don't really know anything about pricing yet. Also this concept so far is a 2-door, which might make it a slightly different segment.
     
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    I don't think Cadillac would compete with Fisker. I don't think people who want to buy a Fisker would want to be seen in a GM car.
     

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