Cadillac ELR (Converj)

[Takumi]

Autoblog article

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog...onverj-concept-computer-generated-image-2.jpg

 

[TEG]

Cadillac Converj concept

Volt mechanicals, Cadillac body.

'Coupe De Volt'

 

[graham]

Interesting... I suppose I should have expected a Cadillac version of the Volt, but it had not occurred to me. I wonder what the price premium will be?

 

[TEG]

Detroit 2009: Cadillac Converj [w/ VIDEO] - Autoblog

 

[doug]

 

[TEG]

I have never owned a Cadillac, and don't consider myself a "Cadillac man", but that is fairly cool looking I think. (Or maybe I am just getting old)

 

[vfx]

We'll See a Cadillac Volt in 2011. Or Not | Autopia from Wired.com

 

[bobw]

Bob Lutz says it will cost "about two Volts."

I think they'll have to upgrade the battery pack. People who buy a car that looks like that will punch it at every opportunity. Then they'll wonder where their 40 all-electric miles went. Shades of Jeremy Clarkson.

I like it too. [Walter Brennan]Now where did you young whippersnappers put my eatin' teeth?[/Walter Brennan]

 

[doug]

Woah... a Walter Brennan reference. I get it, but I wouldn't expect the other young whippersnappers to.

Yeah, I agree about more battery capacity. Do we know the cost of their batteries? A few extra kWh's, even if people don't use it often, would help consumers swallow the price differential.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Woah... a Walter Brennan reference. I get it, but I wouldn't expect the other young whippersnappers to.

Yeah, I agree about more battery capacity. Do we know the cost of their batteries? A few extra kWh's, even if people don't use it often, would help consumers swallow the price differential.

I remember they made a rebuttal to the claim that they are $1000/kWh by saying they are many hundreds less per kWh.

Our Real-World Learnings Differ From CMU Study | GM FastLane

Taking Elon's claim of a $36k replacement cost for the 53kWh pack in the Roadster puts the Roadster battery price (not necessarily the same as cost for Tesla) at $680/kWh.

 

[domenick]

Kokam who have a good, energy-dense cell and decent cycle life are saying theirs are now $850/kWh but expects to get below $500.

 

[dpeilow]

REPORT: GM will build Cadillac Converj — Autoblog Green

Good. Now put a bigger battery in it :biggrin:

 

[dpeilow]

Cadillac Converj a Go, Says Lutz

 

[doug]

Well after supposedly being canceled, it's back!!

Cadillac's Volt-Based Converj Electric Car Gets Green Light: Exclusive

 

[doug]

Renamed as the ELR.
Cadillac Converj hits production as ELR, escapes concept purgatory -- Engadget

 

[ljbad4life]

Renamed as the ELR.
Cadillac Converj hits production as ELR, escapes concept purgatory -- Engadget

This was always the direct competitor to the Fisker Karma, If GM can pull it off, then that would damage the karma far worse than the Model S ever could.

GM already has the Volt at a 0-60 time of 8.5 seconds, shave off another .6 second in ev mode and it matches the Karma exactly. Get 5.6 in "sport mode" which is easily achievable (the karma uses a GM engine). I'm betting GM can do it and with less weight.

 

[doug]

I'm betting GM can do it and with less weight.

And less noise. They also have the more efficient drivetrain.

 

[ljbad4life]

And less noise. They also have the more efficient drivetrain.

did we forget.....almost 50k cheaper!

 

[doug]

did we forget.....almost 50k cheaper!

Despite some folks making guesses, we don't really know anything about pricing yet. Also this concept so far is a 2-door, which might make it a slightly different segment.

 

[EVNow]

I don't think Cadillac would compete with Fisker. I don't think people who want to buy a Fisker would want to be seen in a GM car.