I just noticed it went from $.48 to $.58 today. 
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California Supercharging cost goes up by 20%
- Thread starter dahaz22
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That's roughly $0.20/mile. That's not awesome. Looks like gas is around $5.30 in your area, which would come to just under $0.18/mile.
How about that - Tesla has a captive audience and is taking advantage of them. Sure is great having a proprietary plug.
How about that - Tesla has a captive audience and is taking advantage of them. Sure is great having a proprietary plug.
in San Diego, residential rates during the day are around 55-65 cents per kwh... electricity is way too expensive. So, for Tesla to install the supercharger equipment and maintain it plus cover the electricity cost, their fees are actually in line with what folks ought to pay. The problem is California, not really Tesla
It might depend on the location.
Long ago, there were reports of price differences between locations that are just 2 miles apart here in Nor Cal: CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3.
There was an update at CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3. Another site opened up recently not far from these two: San Jose, CA - 925 Blossom Hill Road Supercharger | Tesla. I don't know the pricing at all 3 now since I have no Tesla.
Meanwhile, there are two SAE Combo and CHAdeMO chargers nearby that are only 19 cents per kWh. And, Electrify America is 31 cents/kWh if you pay $4/mo for Pass+ but you need to be able to charge either via SAE Combo or CHAdeMO.
Long ago, there were reports of price differences between locations that are just 2 miles apart here in Nor Cal: CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3.
There was an update at CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3. Another site opened up recently not far from these two: San Jose, CA - 925 Blossom Hill Road Supercharger | Tesla. I don't know the pricing at all 3 now since I have no Tesla.
Meanwhile, there are two SAE Combo and CHAdeMO chargers nearby that are only 19 cents per kWh. And, Electrify America is 31 cents/kWh if you pay $4/mo for Pass+ but you need to be able to charge either via SAE Combo or CHAdeMO.
Jigglypuff
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Mockingbird
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Electrify America is $0.31/kWh with Pass+.
Pass+ membership is $4/mo.
You might as well go to Electrify America.
Pass+ membership is $4/mo.
You might as well go to Electrify America.
With the adapter that isn't available in North America?
Mockingbird
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...buy from South Korea and use a mail forwarding service
alexcue
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It's making my $300 investment in the CCS1 adapter look better each day... Seriously though, for most people the Supercharger and DCFC is for travel, not for everyday usage. And when I travel most places I drove through with my ICE vehicle weren't average in price, they were usually much higher.
That is not an acceptable alternative to the company who provides it not providing it in the region you want to use it in. Furthermore they can disable CCS charging via software at any time.
Depending on the network, your location and charging habits, you could pretty easily save $6 per charging session ($0.12 difference, 50 kWh per session). 50 charging sessions to recover a $300 investment. If you didn’t have home charging and/or you take a lot of road trips, you could do this in a year, which is a pretty decent return on investment.
That said, I expect some of the main non-Tesla networks to increase their prices in the near future. Nonetheless, it’s nice to have more charging options, regardless of price.
That said, I expect some of the main non-Tesla networks to increase their prices in the near future. Nonetheless, it’s nice to have more charging options, regardless of price.
Mockingbird
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You are missing the point.
By having the choice to charge elsewhere, you are forcing Tesla to price its Supercharger rates competitively.
It's why Tesla still hasn't launched the CCS adapter in NA.
SageBrush
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Some of the California rates at TOU locations went from $0.48/$0.24 to $0.58/$0.29. Kettleman City is not TOU but that location went to $0.45.
It's not just California where I see supercharging rate increases. I noticed that the rates in Minnesota went from $0.35/kWh to $0.41/kWh. This is the fourth rate hike I have seen since I took delivery in May 2021: from $0.28 to $0.31 in August 2021, then to $0.33 in December 2021, then to $0.35 in mid-April 2022, now to $0.41 just a month later.
Wisconsin also saw a price hike: low tier is now about $0.22 a minute.
Now that I have the CCS adapter in hand, I am adjusting charging strategy on road trips. Trips between Minneapolis and Chicago, for instance, will primarily use EA chargers, because the pricing is much better. At this rate, when EA opens up more locations in Minnesota, I will recoup the $318.50 pretty quickly.
Didn't Elon say that the superchargers were not intended to be a profit center?
Mockingbird
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BM3B
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Ouch, I definitely rubbed my eyes at paying $0.58 per kWh yesterday in San Diego. And last month peak hours were extended. This is one way to reduce demand and crowding.
I would happily pay the increased cost if the parking spaces were:
www.gridserve.com
I charge at home so road trips are my only DCFC usage. So long as it's cheaper than petrol and a better user experience than petrol stations I think I'm good to go.
- Covered (solar panels!). Gas stations are covered and you're only there a few minutes.
- Short walk from food or actually in a restaurant parking lot
- CLEAN. Filthy gas stations is one of the reason I got away from that life. Now it's following me to EV life.
GRIDSERVE | Braintree
Established in 2020, it’s the first EV charging station of its kind in Europe, designed to demonstrate that the future of road transport can be cleaner, cheaper, smarter and fundamentally better.
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I charge at home so road trips are my only DCFC usage. So long as it's cheaper than petrol and a better user experience than petrol stations I think I'm good to go.
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