TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

Call to arms: Tuesday 9/22 State House (Boston) 1pm

Discussion in 'New England' started by EdA, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. EdA

    EdA Model S P-2540

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,887
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    A little birdy told me that there is a committee hearing Tuesday 9/22 @ 1pm.
    Tesla legal counsel and others will be there. Need people to show up in support
    of Tesla, not sure if there will be speaking opportunities, nor am I sure about the room.
    Unfortunately I won't be there but my better half may.
     
  2. cfava

    cfava Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2013
    Messages:
    77
    Location:
    Plymouth, MA
    Do you know the committee name? I'll have my representative give me the description of the bill they may be discussing and post it here.
     
  3. EdA

    EdA Model S P-2540

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,887
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Breaking info!

    Room A-1. See below:

    The Joint Committee on Consumer Protection and Professional Licensure holds a hearing on 15 automotive bills, along with two bills related to alcohol licenses in Salem. Full agenda: Event Details
    (Tuesday, 1 p.m., Room A-1)
     
  4. LMB

    LMB Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    192
    Location:
    South Shore Boston
    #4 LMB, Sep 21, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2015
    I'll be there.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The bad bill is S.177, sponsored, as it was last year, by Marc Pacheco. Like last year, the bill appears to be a wishlist of stuff for dealers and includes the following addition to the section of the law on direct sales by manufacturers

    SECTION 2. Paragraph (10) of said subsection (c) of said section 4 of said chapter 93B,
    33 as most recently amended by section 4 of chapter 152 of the acts of 2012, is hereby amended by
    34 inserting before the first full sentence the following sentence:- This blanket prohibition on
    35 manufacturer ownership applies notwithstanding whether a manufacturer or distributor has
    36 previously used independently owned or operated dealerships to distribute its vehicles.

    The good bill is H.222, sponsored again this year by Rep. Linsky of Natick where the first Mass. Tesla dealership was opened. This year it has many more sponsors, and in fact more than the dealers' bill. In addition to clarifying the legality of manufacturer ownership of a dealership where there were no previous franchise dealerships for the same manufacturer, it also specifies that anyone suing because they claim to be harmed by manufacturer ownership of a dealership must show that they sell the same make and model as the dealership they are complaining about, in order to prove they were harmed.
     
  5. mayarthur

    mayarthur New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2015
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    Hi Laura,

    I plan to be there as well. See you tomorrow.

    May Arthur
     
  6. PeterK

    PeterK Model S Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    1,148
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    I went last time but tomorrow I'll be there in spirit as I'm in nyc for a meeting in the am.
     
  7. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    7,842
    Location:
    Portland, Maine, USA
    Ack, I wish I were still a MA resident and had standing to speak. This is an important issue -- I hope that as many MA members as possible can find the time to attend. This is important!
     
  8. ModelS1079

    ModelS1079 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    837
    Location:
    Suburban Boston
     
  9. Rheazombi

    Rheazombi Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2008
    Messages:
    618
    Location:
    Boston
    So.... I've never been to anything like this before. I want to show support obviously but if I just show up and sit there would that be completely useless? I kinda want to know what to expect before getting into this...
     
  10. PeterK

    PeterK Model S Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    1,148
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    When you get there register your name to comment on both bills. Put some thought into what to say, politely, re them.
     
  11. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    7,842
    Location:
    Portland, Maine, USA
    I haven't been to a MA hearing. In ME you can sign in and request a speaking slot--3 minutes to speak, but then as long as the committee members want to spend questioning. But Maine is far smaller and more democratic (little D) than most states.
     
  12. EdA

    EdA Model S P-2540

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,887
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Showing up in support and not speaking is definitely good enough!!!
    I went 2 years ago, it was great.
     
  13. 3mp_kwh

    3mp_kwh Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2013
    Messages:
    822
    Location:
    Boston
    Might Tesla be bringing (temporary) wardrobe, for those not speaking?

    What time does sign-up close, if the hearing begins at 1PM?

    I plan on making it. As it is also taking place at this hearing, I wonder if H.3383 has ramifications for expanding "right to repair" beyond franchised dealers, by saying "manufacturers of digital electronic products".
     
  14. EdA

    EdA Model S P-2540

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,887
    Location:
    Massachusetts
  15. PeterK

    PeterK Model S Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    1,148
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    Anyone out there who attended? Inquiring minds want to know...
     
  16. 3mp_kwh

    3mp_kwh Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2013
    Messages:
    822
    Location:
    Boston
    Quick take on the happenings:
    3383 was not related to auto "right to repair", though there may be some overlap. I say it because most of the hearing was one, by one, support for its application to electronics. Then came Tesla.

    Very light showing, by the time Tesla took the desk, ~2:40. James Chen (Tesla's legal council, I think), Dedham's service head and one of our faithful all went, at once. I followed, with a quick echo about the conflict of dealers wanting to fix cars, up-selling the ICE, harming consumers, etc. James Chen did a great job, but saying it less well after "I'm a resident" still matters. That was it.

    Other support for 177, the dealer bill, was weak. Its main sponsor did not attend, and the dealers did their thing, with overtime. Ernie Bach's council was there, representing his dual Subaru distributor and dealer role. Their unique opposition to the dealers was most telling, as she reiterated that the bill was an unmoderated wish-list, that keeps coming back. 'Automobile Alliance', I think, was there in opposition to the dealers. Their participating OEMs were not identitfied. My sense was 177 was going nowhere, before anyone went to this thing, and 222 explains a basic effort to contain the repeated need to be heard, by making the dealers petition apply only to OEMs whose vehicles they sell. I think 222's passage would get Tesla off the hook of having to hop planes so much. I would guess that is why the Dedham Rep is trying to help it along.
     
  17. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    7,842
    Location:
    Portland, Maine, USA
    Thanks for the report on the hearing. FWIW, James Chen is Tesla's VP Regulatory--effectively, its chief lobbyist, one of its very few (only?) DC-based employees. Smart guy.
     

Share This Page