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Calling All Lead Foots, Racers and Other "Abusers"

Discussion in 'Model S' started by SDRick, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. SDRick

    SDRick Member

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    For those of you who always drive with a heavy foot, drag your car, or always charge to 100%, what kind of battery degradation or other issues are you having (besides a constant grin)?
     
  2. rory breaker

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    Only 5 months but I just find the range to be way less than advertised, obviously ;) If you are a spirited driver (IE not flooring everywhere but you like to dig in and be the fastest car on the road) prob expect 170-200 max out of the 90kw battery. I have ludicrous though so dont know if that changes anything.

    Nothing in terms of degradation (how would you measure that?) Others who have dragraced the car can speak better than me, but from what Ive gathered you can do about 10 passes or so before you get a slightly noticeable impact to times. Not sure if thats on a 100% charge or 85%/daily charge. Also not sure how much juice you lose per pass on average, IE what #/range amt left means "my times will start to suffer" - would love to know too.
     
  3. NSX1992

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    At a 1/8 mile dragstrip I lose about 2% battery after each run, on a 1/4 mile strip about 3%. Also after each run you go slightly slower. After 6 runs my time was 0.1 seconds slower. I only charge 100% when I am going racing and I have not noticed any degradation due to that.
     
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  4. tstafford

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    I drive aggressively. I've seen little degradation - maybe the difference is just refinements in the algorithms that calculate remaining range.

    On the list of things to worry about with a Tesla, battery degradation seems very low.
     
  5. VegasBlue

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    There are several cars available that have buttons on the steering wheel for extra zoom.
    While I'm not advocating adding more buttons to the steering wheel, I think it would be nice to add a Sport/Ludicrous switching option to the menu button on the bottom right of the steering wheel, so that I could quickly switch between the two modes with the right rolling switch in the event that the 911 next to me needs a quick lesson in electrons.
     
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    None, Normal battery degradation, no other issues.
     
  7. SDRick

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    I agree that selecting these performance modes is cumbersome. (I just leave mine in ludicrous, why wouldn't you)? What is particularly frustrating is selecting Max Battery. It is a five-step process to turn on max battery and return to the main screen. On top of that, there is no indication whether Max battery mode is on or off without again going back to the main screen with a few screen taps.
     
  8. rory breaker

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    Has anyone done any back to back runs to test the difference w max battery power?
     
  9. Dithermaster

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    I'm a spirited driver but I don't charge to 100%, just 90%. I don't like the reduced regen, and I know it's better for the battery.
     
  10. 3s-a-charm

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    I'm also an aggressive driver. My old P85D was always charged to 90% and the range went from a best of 409km on full charge to a low of about 398km on a full charge after 43,000km of driving (nearly 2 years). I think that was minimal and very acceptable. Also I am aware that these numbers don't actually reflect "degradation" as the range calculations would fluctuate with each charge by a few km. Bottom line, I think there is very little risk in using the car/battery heavily.
     
  11. Elliott P100D

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    I dragged my car every chance I could this year. About once every four weeks average. I drove in crazy clandestine cannonball race mode to see my mom in the emergency room in Vegas... 4, 400 miles round trip. My car, #3, has already brought so many impossible racing and traveling memories into my recent past reality that I feel honored to own her... any loss of chargeable ability is minimal.

    I have charged her to 100% quite a few times, but always using #3 on the road immediately. One time as I recall she may have said I 'could' travel 320 miles. 15,000 miles later, the magic number is: 316. 0917170654f_HDR.jpg
    I love my car.
     
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  12. Evoforce

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    Yep, You and I crossed paths in Holbrook AZ. I had made a similar trip to Michigan, where my father was ailing, and back to AZ shortly before meeting you briefly at the Supercharger.
     
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  13. jerjozwik

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    reduced as in setting regen to "low"? i thought tesla recommended "standard".
     
  14. tkdkenny

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    I think they mean that when charged to 100% the regen is reduced because there is no where for all the power to go. It may have some brake resistors to give a little regen, but the car really needs to dump the power into the battery.
     

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