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Because it won't melt the snow. It was snowing hard at 7:20 this morning when I got to the parking lot. I have tried turning it on a couple of hours before in the past and it did not melt the snow - the best way to do this is to be proactive and have the heat stay on while it is snowing so that the snow melts immediately upon hitting the car.Geesh, what a waste of energy.
Why not just use your app to turn on the heater about 40 minutes before you're done at work (or use the automatic feature) and use less than 5% of that energy while getting the same results?
That's awesome. The funniest part is the people giving you *sugar* for it and thumbs downing your post.
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It’s SO much fun to do though.
People will complain about anything and then argue with a rock about it.The guy didn't drone bomb a hydro station and then poison the water supply...he used some energy to keep his car clean and safe.
I think we need to get some perspective here. The guy drives an electric car that he paid a massive premium for, in part, to do his part. He also paid a massive premium for a solar energy gathering solution that likely won't 'pay off' financially for 25 years, so he's financially sacrificing there as well.
The energy he used to ensure he is not sat outside in his business clothes clearing his car and waiting for his windows to defrost is less than what someone would use if they drove at 120 vs 100 on a 200 km journey on the highway. Or the energy he used was equivalent to the energy you'd use by having the heat on in the car vs. off for a 120 km drive in winter.
So those of you scorning wayner, I guess you can continue to tick along at 100 kmh on the 401 with cold noses and your parkas on, while the rest of us bathe in the decadent, energy burning opulence of travelling at 120 kmh and wearing only a sweater.
I think people need to drop the burning torches and get back to reality here.
TI think people need to drop the burning torches and get back to reality here.
I just checked and there was only one post calling it a waste of energy. The rest is just discussion and admonishing that one poster for his thoughts.
Geesh, what a waste of energy.
Why not just use your app to turn on the heater about 40 minutes before you're done at work (or use the automatic feature) and use less than 5% of that energy while getting the same results?
Well, I am sort of torn over the idea.
2. your own
I am the OP who is the energy waster. My car is charged from 4-7am. I monitor the Gridwatch app and web site, especially on off-hours, and at these times there is very little gas generation turned on. The only ones that are working at those times appear to be a DowChem plant in Sarnia, a Whitby cogen plant and Kirkland Lake. I believe the first two are running due to Industrial demand for reasons beside electricity generation. I am guessing that Kirkland Lake is running either because of industrial need or a lack of other generation nearby. I doubt that my incremental demand in Scarborough at 5:30am causes any pollution whatsoever. So if I am happy to pay for that power then what is the big deal?Ontario has data to show that conservation programs cost far less per kW than building new generation, and new generation, if necessary, would likely take the form of gas-fired peaker plants.We are already seeing peak periods occur in traditional "off peak" periods like overnight, and periods of excess supply mid-day due to all the solar coming on line. EVs are going to cause a huge disruption in how electricity is generated and distributed over time.
Even Ontario's supply is not completely carbon-free. We are interconnected with New York, Minnesota and Michigan and depending on power flows, do from time to time import from those jurisdictions. Ontario also still has some oil and diesel generation (yes, quite small) and a fair bit of gas. So while not as severe from an environmental point of view, "idling" an electric car can be compared to idling a gas car just to keep it warm.
I think we need to get some perspective here. The guy drives an electric car that he paid a massive premium for, in part, to do his part. He also paid a massive premium for a solar energy gathering solution that likely won't 'pay off' financially for 25 years, so he's financially sacrificing there as well.
I am the OP who is the energy waster. My car is charged from 4-7am. I monitor the Gridwatch app and web site, especially on off-hours, and at these times there is very little gas generation turned on. The only ones that are working at those times appear to be a DowChem plant in Sarnia, a Whitby cogen plant and Kirkland Lake. I believe the first two are running due to Industrial demand for reasons beside electricity generation. I am guessing that Kirkland Lake is running either because of industrial need or a lack of other generation nearby. I doubt that my incremental demand in Scarborough at 5:30am causes any pollution whatsoever. So if I am happy to pay for that power then what is the big deal?